Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Excellent turn out. Bear in mind no postal votes, no official poll cards, very short time period, only 5 hour polling period. Superb turnout far better than I thought possible. Better than KCC by election at 16pc. A powerful statement for Charlie to take to Parliament.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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I beg your pardon! A 25% turnout after so much campaigning by the p/p trust LTD! That means 75% of the electorate of Dover did not take part in the poll, even though the polling hours were accessible by all means and standards.
Yesterday I held an indoor speech and explained to an assembly of people why to vote at today's poll would not be advisable; everyone agreed with my arguments, and said that in this case they would not vote!
The result is a massive No! answer to the P/p trust Ltd proposal, and to DHB's privatisation proposal! 75% refused to vote for either of them.
This leaves the road open for the third option campaign!
Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
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You do talk a load of crap Alex.
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Ian, you lost, with 75% not voting for either proposal. The figures speak clearly!
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I agree it was a poor turnout of only just25% that means 75%,
(1) did not agree
(2) could not careless.
Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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So if you got elected with 98% of the vote on a 25% turnout what would you do?
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Vic, many people in Dover decided long ago that they would not accept either proposal put forward by the P/p trust.
On such a vital local issue, there can be no comparison to an election vote.
75% of the electorate did not turn out to vote, and this speaks for itself: the p/P trust proposal did not convince the vast majority of the people in Dover.
Where I live, the P/p campaign leaflets were left lying next to the door, not one person picked one up! They are still there now!
Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
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I didn't lose anything Alex, unfotunatley I didn't get down to vote due to working.
I go along with the peoples feelings of Dover, not against them.
Have you tried standing for council?
You wouldn't get my vote.
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Other leaflets are always picked up.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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So Vic, the last time you stood for a council seat the turnout was 17%. how would you analyse that result?
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Ian, the hours were from 4 PM to 9 PM. This is a fair voting time for a poll, as people tend to be out of work between 5:30 PM and 7:30 PM.
The campaign was very much publicised, also on internet and in local news-papers.
I have spoken to many people who told me that they did not agree with either proposal.
The officer in Belgrave Road told me that it was not a referendum, but a poll.
The poll clearly states that 75% of the electorate in Dover did not opt for either of the two proposed options.
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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25% with no postal votes and limited times ruling out those who work shifts or late hours is a brilliant result in almost everyones book.
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I am not into analyse anything,as I said to you all tonight all I see is black and white,what you have seen is what happen 25% turned out meanig 75% did not.I would not call that a victory.
Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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Vic, I'm sure you would if you won with that vote
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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you can be such a trouble maker ray, i put it down to the morris dancing.
Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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That morris has got a lot to answer for.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Chris, there is an analytic explanation for a 25% turnout at a local poll on a vital local issue; that 75% of the electorate did not want to vote for either proposal.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Vic the people who care turned out. The people who didn't turn out don't care. A 98% vote in favour cannot be ignored.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
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You said it Vic, not a victory, If you don't support it I won't vote for you.
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Peter, it is pointless that we just talk in circles, repeating the same themes.
There is a third option, which you and Chris fervently denied.
I think the point has rung home now, I can't just go on all night writing this, time and again. The result of the turnout, and of the yes and no, counts in a poll to determine what proportion of the people are expressly in favour of a proposal.
May-be not everyone who did not vote this evening was expressly a supporter of Dover Port remaining a royal charter asset, but don't you think that you are grossly exagerating when you simply say that there is no other option and that everyone who did not vote simply could not care?
25% in a turnout is NEVER a victory in any poll or election, Peter.