howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#101
i am going to have to go some to beat hubris and schadenfreude, will leave it to tom.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
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#102
IM sure it will be investigated and dealt with soon last thing the party would want is this hanging on to long
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#103
I agree Marek, let common sense prevail. And let anyone who can honestly claim never to have uttered a non-PC sentiment stand up and be counted. Or stuffed and mounted.
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Guest 683- Registered: 11 Feb 2009
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#104
Not wishing to drag this on as it is damaging for the council but had common sense prevailed in the first place we would have nothing to discuss.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#105
Yes Mark you are right, if common sense had prevailed:
1. Bob would not have posted it in the first place.
2. His political opponents would not have moved heaven and earth to make the issue into a cause célèbre which might cost him his job.
3. The press would not have initiated a feeding frenzy of PC-minded sanctimonious do-gooders.
It has died down in the meeja now, let's leave it to the Tories to deal with it in private.
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Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#106
Peter
Hope to God he doesn't lose his job.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#107
Yes Marek if that happens everyone will lose.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#108
peter
i agree the tories should sort this mess out
but it was there own tory supporters wh brought him down
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#109
No, it was the Dover Express.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#110
I wouldnt want to get into express bashing.
at the end of the day 2 tories clerly wanted bob done
but at end of day its bob that posted
but lets let matters lie for the tories to deal with
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#111
i haven't seen any statements from prominent local reds on the situation, only the blues.
so not a case of political bandwagon jumping.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#112
They are probably all on holiday Howard.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#113
interesting,,,,,
story not been followed that closely then
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Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
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#114
Given that Manwood has a significant number of African boarders - he is highly likely to be forced down the path of early retirement....
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#115
I may well be in a minority here
but i know that bob posted knowing full well it was likely to offend and cause uproar.
bob is not a person to avoid such controversy which we have seen on this forum.
thats bobs choice
but with choices comes responsibility
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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#116
With a lot of clever people there can be a decided lack of common sense which is a great shame.
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#117
The African boarders, being highly intelligent people, are most likely to accept his comments not as a racist slur but as a satirical condemnation of rioters of all colours. Decent people of all non-indigenous races hate media treatment of such behaviour by small minorities within ethnic groups which perpetuates an incorrect perception of those groups as a whole. They also resent vicarious offence being taken by the white majority on their behalf.
If they are offended they will speak. They don't need us snowdrops to do it for them.
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Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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#118
Whilst I wholeheartedly agree with you Peter - the governors who will decide his fate are, I suspect, not nearly as enlightened
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Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#119
Was Wayne Elliott is the senior Conservative colleague who declined to be named, who according to the Dover Express, described Mr Frost as "a f****** idiot"? Very nice whoever it was...!
Marek
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#120
Keith, how many times have you prayed the rosary on this interesting subject? Do you still use old 78s?