Keith Sansum1
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well looks like bob will find out to his cost
of course now its in the wider arena
his party will need to be strong on it
or will beseen to be happy for such comments
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Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I have been scouring the national newspapers who have obviously critised Bobs comments supported by calls for Cameron (no less) to take action.
Personal bloggers have mainly not seen what all the fuss is about, stating that he is being pillaried because he is white middle class but if he was an an asian islamic extremist he would be able to say what the hell he likes without reproach..
Marek
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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no marek
no matter who it comes from should be dealt with
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Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Keith
Only reporting public reaction to Bobs comments but there is some truth in the fact that we read of extremists spouting their militant views and then claiming their rights (and benefits) under 'freedom of speech'
Marek
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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MAREK;
These shows that even two lefties can disagree!!!!!!!!
As you stated MAREK bob's a bright geezer, he knew when he posted on facebook that it was an open site, and that the comments would cause concern(to put it mildly)
i don't want to move away from the original heading or thread could get lost
but as said it should be no different whoever makes such comments
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Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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Ah well no Marek, you cannot say what you like nowadays..it is even more sensitive now than previously. You might remember another hi-profile Cllr, in fact there were two of them, very hi-profile, they came a cropper bigtime for what they said on here.
It's several years ago now. We have tightened up since then and dont allow the stuff in the first place. And the rest of the world has tightened up too....but on Facebook you are allowed say mostly what you like, as I understand it although Im far from an expert on Facebook as Im not on there.. but it seems racial stuff, bad language and so on can run, and thats what causes the problem. People have to supply their own restraints and many dont have restraints.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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but paulb;
bob is not silly, hes taught at dover grammer
and now(at present)manwoods
so he knew when he posted it would cause concern
and hes not just some ordinary member of the public
if there is such a thing
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Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Keith/PaulB
I am not condoning Bobs comments and I would never use any language with racial undertones. I am merely presenting another side of the argument to promote discussion.
Look at the ho ha over the Robertsons Jam logo.
Marek
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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yes marek;
i understand where your coming from
and no matter who all should be dealt with in the same way.
that does not as you say excuse bob and his unfortunate words
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I need to come back to the question about who escalated this to such a level, into the national media? What gains were made and by whom?
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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i suppose berne
only kathy can answer that
but not shes able to disclose under data protection
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Give me a break.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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have a kit kat bern lol
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Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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Hard to say Bern, but poor Roger's joke on the Jokes Page went national with every national newspaper and televison carrying it...they were even camping outside his door, but he didnt mean anything at all. But only those who know him would understand that, but once you are a councillor. ..whooosh! It started small, probably someone was outraged, and then bang..it hit the bigtime. I dont think anyone tipped anyone off maliciously as nobody really had anything to gain...the story had legs of its own.
In this case KathyB would probably have got the story probably from a DDC or Conservative source, or as I understand it she knows his FB countenance well..then she may have tipped the nationals as a good story is a good story is a good story. It may simply have been through the press route rather than anyone seeking mileage.
Several years ago we endured some very nasty comments from Cllrs on here, being Cllrs we thought it was probably okay to run with it, as I mention in post 46, but those stories exploded too and finished them as I remember. It was in our early days...things have changed with us now, we dont run the stuff.
By the way we will be dropping our Jokes Page in the autumn. It has outlived its era.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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yep paulb a story is a story
sounds like a few tories got it in for bob
although they may well be sound in threre judgement?
as iv said many times bob knew when posting where it could lead
on a side issue
bern if you get the kit kat with red inside you could win ten grand !!!!
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A story is a story...........not to the victims. With the power of attention comes responsibility, and many people forget that.
Keith, if I find that winning kitkat I will let you know.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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bern
you will just let me know????
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Mr Frost being a potential tutor to one of my grandson`s,who following yesterdays results is enroute to University in Cambridge,can only be excused for his unacceptable remarks as he was on the `silly island`or perhaps on a different planet.
We must all pay for our misdemeanours apologies Howard for changing the thread to Flashman who also had a` friend` called Coulson but dumped him when he was found out!
Guest 683- Registered: 11 Feb 2009
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I am amazed that anyone, but especially someone in public office, thinks that this sort of language is ok. His attempts to justify his language were excruciating, up there with the 'my dog ate my homework' line.
He doesn't strike me as being as bright as some on here assert.