Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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18 February 2010
10:5440968Well Jacqui and Marek both on my post at the same time, things are looking up for me,nice to hear from you both, please keep it up I do like reading what you both put down. Thank you.
Vic MATCHAM
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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20 February 2010
20:2941105Just to let you know my side of the campaign will start in River,at the same time as one for UKIP will start in Deal and this will carry on all over the Parliamentary Constituency of Dover and Deal right up to the day of the Election,when you see me in the high st in both towns please come over and have a chat with myself or the partys members with me Thank you Vic Matcham. We are hoping to hold meetings to, time and dates will come later on.
22 February 2010
15:3941173Much as I'd like to see this thread disappear, I want to use it to remind the erstwhile UKIP candidate for Dover & Deal that his main focus appears to be squarely on Dover only, if postings on this website are anything to go by. If I lived in Deal my vote would certainly be going elsewhere! He should be sure that Gwyn and Charlie won't be making the same mistake.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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22 February 2010
18:2841182Again Sid your are wrong if you look back on this very post you will see that I have aready done letters on the UKIP U.K Policys
Anyway just to let you know Mr Nigel Farage MEP for UKIP will be on this weeks Question time on BBCI at 2235hrs on Thursday,it was to be last week but now it is to be this week and it is coming from Cardiff.Just to say also Mr Perkins my focus is on the whole of the Parliamentary Constituency of Dover,Deal is there as well and I am in Deal alot I have already said that Deal could also see the end of its Hospital and even the fishing boats off the shore line if we stay in the EU. I also have a team at this time working in Deal, so please if you are going to have ago at me get it right first thank you.
22 February 2010
20:2241189Not having a go Vic, just observing that Deal is rarely if ever mentioned in your postings re public toilets etc. Of all the folks posting here, your responses should include Deal and other "non central Dover" locations more than anyone elses. If you are to have any chance of getting elected, it seems to me your conversation needs to be a bit broader in geographical terms.
Folks need to know the man and press the flesh so I hope your campaign manager is earnign his/her crust. There is little evidence from where I sit that he/she is doing so.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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22 February 2010
20:3441191Well Sid you will just have to wait and see on that one,At this time I am also saying we would like to see the high speed train going on to Deal. Back Later .
Guest 693- Registered: 12 Nov 2009
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23 February 2010
11:5241224Sid
I take your criticisms on board, but tbh I don't see UKIP candidates as fighting this election over local issues. For me, one of the main reasons for thinking of voting UKIP at the forthcoming election is that both Labour and Conservative have pledged a national referendum over continued British membership of the EU, and both parties have reneged over their pledges. When Great Britain entered the Common Market in the early 70s, there was no mention of a federal European superpower, and I view our membership of the EU as highly questionable. The two main parties, by their refusal to hold a referendum, seem to be denying the British people to express a democratic right to express their views on the single most important issue affecting the nation as a whole.
People will criticise, and say that voting UKIP will be a wasted vote. Nonsense. Protest votes are at the very heart of a democracy. I think that the best UKIP can hope for at the forthcoming election is to split the Tory vote; with the latest polls showing that the Tories lead over Labour is slipping, perhaps Tory party managers will begin to realise that regular Tory voters considering voting UKIP may become more significant that was once the case and start to address concerns among their followers who question the direction Britain is taking in the direction of Europe. A significant UKIP vote could affect the entire election in marginal seats and cost the Tories dearly.
For me, therefore, whether Vic focuses on Dover alone or embraces Deal, Sandwich and the outlying villages is beside the point. I want to see British membership of the EU reviewed by the entire nation, and for that reason am thinking of voting UKIP despite having voted Tory all my adult life.
As for some of the posts on here and elsewhere belittling Vic for a chequered political background and for not being as literate as others, I know Vic well enough to know that it will all be water off a duck's back to him. I just wonder why it's necessary for the whole elction to be about personal sniping - and that in turn leads me to believe that Vic's opponents are not as confident in the political beliefs they're about to do battle with their opponents over as they perhaps might be. Whether you go along with my reasons for considering voting UKIP or not, there is absolutely no need to snipe at a man for wanting to be elected to Parliament. Largely, Barry's posts are about politics and that earns respect because he's clearly committed to the ideologies of his party. Simply putting a man down because he's an easy target doesn't command respect at all.
True friends stab you in the front.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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23 February 2010
13:1241230All I can say Mr Cooper is a big thank you for that,yes I can take all the personal sniping and have done so over alot of years.
But it is nice just to get apost like yours.
As for the EU, well UKIP is still saying that we in the UK should have a national referendum on saying or coming out of the UK.
UKIP have always said it, and at one time the two main party said "yes " to holding one but when in power they have both said"NO" and that is after telling the public they would hold one again we see more lies.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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23 February 2010
14:1541233Andy - Only Labour reneged, only they have been in the position to provide a referendum on Lisbon.
Conservative were faced with a changed situation after ratification in which a referendum would no longer be relevant on Lisbon as the Treaty is law.
What we need now is a renegotiation of our whole settlement with the EU and a repatriation of powers. This is what is now offered. A referendum could be part of that process and be used as a threat to the EU seeing they hate democracy so much.
23 February 2010
15:1141234Andy, I hope you don't think I am sniping at Vic. We have already suffered after electing MP's more focussed on national and international issues rather than local ones. When I read Vic's postings there is little or anything about the rest of the constituency he is hoping to represent and, I think if he wishes to be elected, that weakness needs to be addressed. Just a simple observation that's all.
As for the Tory vote, according to the latest polls, they are doing very well in the marginals and seats they need to win to form the next government. They are doing so well elsewhere, hence the average lead ove Labour is now down to 6-7%, enough for win but not overall control.
What I find interesting is folks wanting a more Thatcherite stance from Cameron, something to signal a clear difference between blue and red. Personally I would love to see a more right wing Tory party but don't think they have cohonas for it.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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23 February 2010
15:1841237Sid - ignore National Uniform Swing, most commentators focus on that as do most predictive models, a big mistake. You are correct in the the Conservatives are doing better in the battlegrounds where it really counts.
You may have missed one of my blogs recently when I addressed this matter.
On politicalbetting.com a new analysis revealed that the Conservatives could get an overal majority with as little as a 5% lead. A 6/7% lead should be enough though I would want a much better working majority than that would produce.
I am myself a traditional right wing Tory but what comforts me is that despite a broadening of the message/appeal to a wider range of people the core traditional values remain the same.
Guest 693- Registered: 12 Nov 2009
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23 February 2010
16:0741240No Sid, my rant wasn't aimed at you, or anyone whose criticisms of Vic are on genuine issues such as yours saying that Vic hasn't said anything about the rest of the district. There is a sentiment doing the rounds that it's OK to ridicule Vic for various reasons and I despise that. I make no secret of the fact that I have offered my services to Vic in terms of dropping leaflets through letterboxes in Eythorne and Guston and in other areas if I can be of assistance, but I remain a Tory at heart with reservations about the local party and deeply unhappy about continued unquestioned membership of the EU.
What I genuinely don't like is people taking pot shots at political opponents when all they're trying to do is offer an alternative option. UKIP is, for me, always going to be a minority party standing on what is essentially a single issue, similar to Martin Bell standing as an anti-sleaze candidate a decade or so ago. That's not for people to mock, that's something for people to consider - after all, Martin Bell got elected!
True friends stab you in the front.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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24 February 2010
13:2441279I have just been down to the printers and got my first 10.000 leaflets.I think i can say this now a very big thank you to Mr Cooper for the work he done for me without that help my leaflets would not have been so good as they are.
You will now see my teams out and about by the end of the week both in Dover and Deal.I have a very good team and without them I just would not be doing what I am doing today.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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24 February 2010
13:4541283Andy
Anyone that puts themself forward for public office is fair game for sniping and mickey taking in my opinion.Poor old Mike Yarwood,Spitting Image and many others would cease to earn a crust and make us the public laugh if we folowed your suggestion.As for Vics (mis)use of the english language ..it wasn't too long ago that old Brown came under fire from the tories et al for a mis-spelt message of condolence to a soldiers grieving mother.
You also refer to Vics 'political beliefs' I think thats one of Vics major stumbling blocks in that the electorate ,due to his constant switching of political parties, are unsure as to what his 'political beliefs' really are.
If you don't like the humourous heat 'get out of the kitchen!!'
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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24 February 2010
14:1441285Marek. I do not care say about me what you like, it will not upset me in anyway,you are right in saying I am fair game for sniping and some times I have a smile about it.
But I do not and will not snip as you put it about any of the other Candidates I have never done it in the pass and will not start now.
Yes my use of the English Language at times is at best not good.
This is because I am very bad at spelling and it has not got better over the years,yet I am always writing letters and reading ,but yes my spelling is bad.I always have two Dictionary,s at myside just like I have at this very time.
And the only way to find out about the partys is to join them and see what happens from the inside and that is what I done,and I am glad that I done it that way.
Again thank you and the others for your post,and keep them coming.
Guest 693- Registered: 12 Nov 2009
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24 February 2010
15:3541286Marek
There's a world of difference between satire (of which I am a huge fan) and personal jibes. The former is clever and intelligent, the latter smacks of desperation and is quite unintelligent. I, too, happen to believe that all parliamentary candidates are fair game for satire and mickey taking; some of the jibes aimed at Vic, not just on this thread or even on this forum, are just plain nasty attacks that have no merit and serve only to make those who made them look narrow minded.
As I tried in my own clumsy way to put in words on an earlier post, UKIP is an option for Eurosceptics such as myself. Vic is the local UKIP candidate and therefore warrants a little respect. I don't for a minute think he will win, but as I said in that earlier post, tactical voting may just have some effect if enough people take up that option, and my sincere hope is that senior figures within Conservative Central Office are of the same opinion and do more to appease those who may consider not voting Tory.
Incidentally, on a personal note, I'd like to say how great it is to see you posting again; I hope you're feeling a lot better and are well on the way to recovery.
True friends stab you in the front.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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24 February 2010
17:0141289there will be many traditionally blue voters going the way of vic's party this time.
every person i know that votes blue has a distrust of the european experiment.
a lot of blues also distrust the leader, seeing him as not right wing enough.
we now know that the BNP are standing, this will in turn take votes away from the reds.
the electorate will always punish those that they see as letting their traditional supporters down.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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24 February 2010
17:3641291Howard. Thank you for that I do have a good feeling about the way it is turning out already.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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24 February 2010
18:4241296You are wrong howard for one simple reason....... The main driver in this election will be to get out Brown and his cronies.
The right (like me) will, as the left did Blair, support Cameron at the ballot box. Remember, Governments lose elections, oppositions dont win them.
Angus Read published a new poll today, a large sample that highlights marginals and shows the difference in battlefield seats like Dover
Here is the overall national picture, the figures of the last poll they did in brackets.
CON 38% (40)
LAB 26% (26)
LD 19% (18)
The trend is the same as from other firms with a reducing Tory lead with this poll showing a 7.5% swing Lab to Tory.
Top 150 LAB-CON marginals, the figures in brackets compare with the 2005 general election.
CON 42% (33)
LAB 28% (43)
LD 15% (17)
That is a 12% swing Lab to Tory since 2005
They also looked at LibDem marginals as well again compared to 2005
CON 33% (29)
LAB 16% (19)
LD 39% (46)
LibDem to Tory swing 5.5%
These are important figures and similar results have shown up in marginal polls by other organisations relative to the national vote.
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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24 February 2010
19:0641298Perhaps the only thing I know about politics, is that when an election comes up, all the sh.t comes up. Did he bully last year, or the year before that? Or was nobody interested then? The gutter media at work again.
Tell them that I came, and no one answered.
