Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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19 January 2010
18:5138270It was a very good meeting if you go on to the open page you can read about it,thank you.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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21 January 2010
23:0638469Right I now have the full U.K.I.P. Common Sense Policies for an independent great Britain.
This is the platform for the 2010 Elections.
Some of it I do not agree with and over the time it will take me to write all this out ,as we come to them I will point them out.
As you know I will not be about for a week or two so most of this will come over to you when i get back. Thank YOU.
This is the contents of the Policy,and by just looking at this you will see it is not all about the E.U. and I am glad about that,at the last big meeting I went to I did tell them all our 2010policy must not be just about the E.U. I am please to say it is not.
(1)Introduction by David Campbell Bannerman MEP.
(2)The E,U.
(3)The 3 Freedoms of the U.K.Independence Party.
(4)Mori Issues Index.
(5)the Economy.
(6)Immigration.
(7)Law and Order.
(8)Defence.
(9)Heathcare.
(10)Education.
(11)Welfare and Pensions.
(12)Direct democracy.
(13)Other Issues.
(14)Negative Impact Study.
(15)Positive Vision.
(16)Q.A.
So there you have it all I have one more to add to that and that is Local ISSUES.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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31 January 2010
21:3639274Moving on with more of the headlines with U.K.I.P.
The Economy Taxation
(1)Raise the Income Tax threshold to the annual rate of the minimum wage (£11,500)- no taxes on minimum wage earners.
(2)Combining income tax bands and employees NIC into single flat tax rate of 31%.
(3) Replace VAT with a local Sales Tax (LST.)
(4)Scrap Inheritance Tax when feasible.
(5) Saves on bureaucracy, complexity-current tax code 100,000 pages.
(6) Defeats the object of avoiding tax.
(7) Incentivises job creation and investment.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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31 January 2010
21:4239276VIC
And to pay for any of this you will????
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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31 January 2010
21:4839279not with you on much of that vic.
1) shafting of the lower paid, most people on the minimum wage pay no tax already and actually get tax credits.
4) when is feasible?
5, 6 & 7) what are they?
just seem like sound bites.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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31 January 2010
21:5139280Keith there is alot more to come IE. £41bn havling the cost of Quangos.
£6bn by resisting public sector pension increases (Sorry that is how it should read.)
£14bn in departmental overspend.
U.K.I.P. to reduce government spending to levels of the late 1990s(less than 40%GDP, 50%now.
ECB report found the UK government wastes 16%of what it spends=£101bn in 2008.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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31 January 2010
21:5439282VIC
Am I reading this right that UKIP is save 6billion by not giving ANY public sector pay rises?
would like to get this right so I can pass it on to all those affected
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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31 January 2010
22:0139284Keith upper public sector the(The top ones)mate. Sorry I did not put that in thanks for telling me.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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31 January 2010
22:0439285Think you need to explain this one a lot more
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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31 January 2010
22:1639287Keith i will just do that when the time is right, but what you must also remember that there are 1000s even more than that that do not get a pension at all with their jobs I was just one of them it is very hard today to find a job which comes with any pension let alone one that goes up each year. If you have a penison,but as we are talking about pay and not pension just to let you know men are now working for less this year per hour than last year just to keep hold of their jobs and some companys will be doing the same this year and will not be paying out a pay rise at all.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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31 January 2010
22:2139288So you are to restrict many in the public sector>>??
Think this needs a lot more clarity
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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31 January 2010
22:2339289You are right mate but please not tonight.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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31 January 2010
22:2539290VIC
I don't wish to pick holes in your postings but you should know the facts behind the post, anyway get some rest
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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31 January 2010
23:1439291keith
the point victor is making is that the public sector are getting a better deal than those that work in the private sector.
is this right?
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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1 February 2010
08:5539298The public sector pensions need to be reformed. A stop to future accruals into a final salary scheme, freezing all accruals at the present point, adjusted only for future inflation, with future pension accrual to be from Money Purchase pensions to which almost all of the rest of us are now limited.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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1 February 2010
10:5339303Howard, Thank you for that and you are right that was my point last night.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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1 February 2010
20:3739361VIC
Im starting to doubt if you realy know enough about these policies
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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6 February 2010
21:0839827Well the U.K.I.P. in Dover are just about ready to come out into the steets not only in Dover but the whole District so over the next two weeks and right up to the Gen Election you will see us about. I will be coming round to but I can only sit or stand around the car so if you wish to talk to me please come over, but I hope to be up and running round soon.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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12 February 2010
19:2640426I can not name them but I am geting alot of help from members with the next Gen/Election so again thank you very much for that.Again we are now ready and soon we will be out and about.
At this time I am looking at a cutout of Mr Paul Watkins,and Mr Gwyn Prosser, and ,Mr Hook This is the 2005 Election.
In the picture it has Mr Watkins saying"Lets Privatise Dover it,s more than Labour can offer vote Conservative."
Then it has Mr Prosser saying"let,s not Privatise Dover its another Tory Trick! vote Labour."
Then on the end we have Mr Hood saying"Im a Nice Guy vote for me.
I would just like to point out to you all that Mr B Goldfield D,H,B, chief executive was saying a BIG NO to the port privatisation,he can not say he did not say that because at this very time I am looking at it in black and white.
It goes on to say that Independent Vic Matcham may be a factor but only in a very tight finish.
That was in 2005,now in 2009 we see Mr Watkins gone,and Mr Hook gone, but I am still there but this time in U.K.I.P. but still saying the same as in 2005 "Avery big No to the privatisation of our port.
But it is the blues now saying the same as me,and Labour saying that the port must be sold off.
But Mr Prosser is in nomans land at this time half is still saying NO and the party half saying Yes.
So we at U.K.I.P are just the same.A VERY BIG NO.
Just to add to this last time Mr Watkins got the then shadow environment minister Mr Tim Yeo to come to Dover to announce his party,s intention to privatise the port as a policy commitment.
Let me tell you they are the same today as then and are not telling us the real truth,if they get in next time take it from me within two years they also will sell the port off,at this time just to get votes they are hiding this till later. Vic matcham
12 February 2010
21:3840440Personally think those UKIP policies are tosh, but, they are public now thanks to Vic. Not so the witterings of a dying governement or the pretenders to the throne and the boys in yellow.
Great documentary on tv tonight, Andrew Marr talking about the Thatcher years. What happy days when our nation was proud and being run by those elected instead of a bunch of union boys with hidden agendas. Love her or hate her (there is no middle ground) we must accept that we are stronger as a nation because of her tenure in No.10. It wasn't all good admittedly, but there was no spin, double dealing or lying as we have seen in the last decade. heart on the sleeve politics from the great lady. If only we could find another like her.
Today someone even said to me how awful the NUS strike was and blamed the outcome on dear Maggie. My reply, "Yep, she brought an end to onboard bullying and rape of female staff, an end to fraudulent onboard working practices and an end to all male staff on the tills. I can understand why the seaMEN went on strike. Just so typical that a lady would be wanting to change those working practices". There was silence thereafter.
