howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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8 January 2010
21:3736858had another look vic, reached no.7 don't know enough to give an opinion.
No.8. this citizens pension sounds a bit suspicious to me.
at present we have state pension paid for all our lives through taxation, what will happen to that?
the rest doesn't look too controversial.
please give answers when you have had a chance to digest everything.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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8 January 2010
22:1436861Howard.Thank you for that I will be looking at them over the weekend. One good thing coming out already is at last you can see I can get serious and thoughful,and it is very Important for me to show that I am not there just to make the number up.
But still smiling aswell..
One of the very good things about U.K.I.P I am free to say how I feel and also what the public of Dover feel.IE= Ihave said this before and the party I am in have said O.K. to it.
If I did get in I would be the voice of the Dover Public and even if I disagreed with what they were saying or the party did aswell, I would go along with the public because I am their representaive they voted me in to do just that and i would at all cost not let them down.I love this part of the world I was born and lived here all my life and now it is time to show it.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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8 January 2010
22:1736862Gwyn and MP's before him have represented all Dover District VIC and not just Dover maybe thats where your going wrong?
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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8 January 2010
22:3036867Keith,I did not say they did not ,but most of the time but not always they go along the lines of the party they are in.I did not say just Dover,WHAT I said was this part of the world, I am in Deal alot again love the town,also Sandwich again I am there alot,and my family do come from the St Mar/Bay and I am out there most weeks it is not just about Dover but also the District.
At the last election all my time was taken up going around the district and all the parish,s talking and going to meetings it was only in the last few days before the vote that i was going around Dover.the good thing this time I will be geting alot more help and I do not agree with you that What I am doing now or then is wrong.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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8 January 2010
22:3836874Vic
just pointed out in your post you indicated you would look after dover without mentioning anywhere else refreshing you corrected that.
You mentioned the speakers candidates meetings, they hopefully will happen.
wonder the thoughts of others that attended the last candidates meetings as they saw it without political bias
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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8 January 2010
22:4436876Keith.It is wait and see on that one,but like last time I am ready and looking ward to it.I know I can hold my own with them.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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8 January 2010
22:4636877i think that it was just a figure of speech keith.
gwyn is known in the wider world as the member for dover, even though he is member for dover and deal.
the candidates meetings(if they happen), all the candidates have different styles, gwyn is the stoical, down to earth, serious type, chas the slick, younger, new face of politics type and vic the passionate, old school tub thumper.
Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
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8 January 2010
22:5436878You do have a way with words Howard.
I'll take the dictionary to bed tonight.
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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8 January 2010
23:0236880Howard I like that one thank you.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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10 January 2010
16:3137089O.k it is Questions and my Answer to them.I will do this in the best way i can. I am going to take Pauls the Boss first.
You have aske about trading with developing countrys of the commonwealth and others outside the E.U.
Well PAUL you have said it yourself they are developing and in doing that it makes alot of trade or would do for the U.K. we already gave them funding so like under Mrs T,we should go back to making it all goods like trains rolling stock, building e.t.c.
Europe do not need any of that just our cash.This is true we pay into the E,U, £45million a day yes £45 million aday.I do think this we need to leave the E.U. and put Great Britain back on the map -free to govern ourselves which we done for 100s of years before the E.U. and again trade freely across the globe.
I will go on with immigration later on. Thank you.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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10 January 2010
17:1937096Right on with Immigration.Did you know and this is a fact that E.U. forces us to accept unlimited immigration from 26 other countries and that is true.This goverment doesn,teven know how many immigrants are in the U.K. and that is them telling us not the other partys,I think we have to get back to proper border controls,with no papers you just do not get in.Did you know that even serious criminalsare rarely deported after serving their sentences.
AT the levels today, immigration is the equivalent to a new city the size of Birmingham every five years,it is all about space not race.Our services and the infrastructure cannot cope with the numbers we are now geting. What can be done,well I have said it already but here it is again.
Freeze permanent settlement for five years. I did say this some 6years ago when on the D,T,C, and it got in all the papers at that time.
Our border agency need to triple its personnel.
Find and deport illegal immigrants righr away.
Work permits only for Uk economic needs
But we do have A proud tradition of helping genuine asylum seekers who fear for their lives and that should carry on.
And last Deport all immigrants again right away who commit crimes(ANY).
Guest 693- Registered: 12 Nov 2009
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10 January 2010
17:2037097Paul
Sorry, but the Commonwealth is actually gaining in membership over recent times - I believe it's had its heyday, but (primarily) as an Asian & Australasian band of brothers, it's trying to become a quasi-Asian EU. It could work, too, but as for Great Britain once again ruling the waves through the Commonwealth.......no!
True friends stab you in the front.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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10 January 2010
17:2437099Andy it is not only the Commonwealth but rest of the world to.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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10 January 2010
18:1537104VIC
On the one hand you say send em all home we are sinking
then in the latter part of your post you say we welcome asylum seekers in threat to there life.
so how and who decies that
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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10 January 2010
19:4637116Keith please read my post again.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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10 January 2010
20:5137124read and re read genuine asylum seekers who will decide
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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10 January 2010
22:2037147i think that the comment in the original thread about the commonwealth has been misinterpreted here.
vic seems to be saying that UKIP supports free trade with anyone and mentions the old commonwealth countries as they have been frozen out since we joined the EEC, later the EC, then even later the EU.
Brian Dixon
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11 January 2010
08:2237170the uk is still trading with the rest of the world.despite common belief,still getting butter and lamb from new zealand,allso goods from australia and the rest of the comonwealth desite rumers from certain partys,just read the labels.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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11 January 2010
13:1437181Brian you are right but the E,U, tell us how much lamb and goods we can get outside the E.U.Howard again you are right,we should have the freedom to buy and sell any where inside and outside the E,U,
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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11 January 2010
14:1437184quite right vic, with the added bonus of not having to pay a small fortune to a bureaucracy for the privelege.