Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,895
Watching the news a lot of the problem seems to be the ineffectual use of the police. I have just seem pictures of a group of police in riot gear standing around watching a fire with no rioters in sight and only one other man, possibly a shop owner, in camera shot.
I am really beginning to believe that the top brass do not seem to know how to what they are doing. We get grand gestures with so called community policing which seems to be a complete waste of time, because the police receive no respect, if that is the word, from the yobs they are trying to make contact with.
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I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
there are simply not enough police officers to deal with the problem, they are now sending officers in from the provinces to london.
this will just mean that the places they are sent from will be open to the latest fad of looting.
Guest 683- Registered: 11 Feb 2009
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As has apparently happened in the Medway towns, Howard.
Are we seeing the consequences of successive governments exhortations that we can do more for less?
Good to see politicians giving up their summer holidays to come back and lay the blame on anyone or anything other than themselves or their policies!
And still today the spineless tories are refusing use of water canons or army that teresa may looks like a puppet from spitting image hey as long as its not their property or streets being attacked why would they care, i hope people wont ever vote for this disgrace of a goverment again
Guest 644- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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One really encouraging note is that the responsible sections of the affected communities have really got their act together in co-ordinating clean ups. Via social network sites such as Facebook and Twitter thousands of people have got together to organise community work to clear the wreckage in not just London, but Liverpool and Birmingham.
I hope they are given a lot of publicity. Throughout all the negativity it demonstrates that there is still a community spirit, and the positive side of these online social networks.
Thats great but how the hell during a 2nd recession do they get their businesses up and running again????? so many shops burned to the ground , homes lost and now its been reported in the last three days two police officers have been injured and now the thugs are entering peoples homes to still not enough is being done will there be a London at the end of it ??????
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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It's against the current UK law to use water canon on the mainland secondly they are all in Northern Ireland at present.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
but why tho ??????????? Britain is at war with yobs on our streets we need severe punishments
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Apparently, the bullet which lodged in a police radio, thus saving a life, was a police issue bullet.
It strikes me that yet again the news gets ahead of itself, spurred-on by an innate facility to daemon-ise sections of the public while sanctifying any and all actions by the forces of the State.
Could it possibly be that none of those involved in the original incident had the slightest idea of what actually went on?
Or is it that, irrespective of the truth, the line put out must follow Orwell's Animal Farm dictum; Blue-serge legs=Good, denim/tracksuit legs=Bad?
The Police shot a man in Hackney some years ago in a quiet suburban street. The police statement put out on the Radio4's one o'clock news I remember to this day,
"I know nothing about the incident, all I know is that it was carried out by the book."
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Some man on bbc one news darkus howe his name was is saying its an up rising of the people and accused the presenter of being rude and making accusations
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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There was a time when looters would be shot... it was not so long ago either.
Its not as if these useless lousy rioting criminals would be a loss, they are not worth the air they breathe.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Mel, I do not have a high opinion of this Darkus Howe, he is ever on hand as a mouth-piece because he is all to easily goaded into trotting out rot.
The media trying to dig itself out from under the trouble they played an active and dishonest part in creating can always rely on him.
Barry, frankly your head is jammed tight up your arse!
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
But the torys wont use water canons or the army so god forbid anything more can go making them look hard .
i had never heard of him before until today Tom
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Oh really Tom.............there is no room at all for this kind of behaviour we are seeing and these low-lifes deserve utter contempt.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Curfews?
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Curfews wont work, these people arent scared of the law dont help the fact that police cells are full, prisons are full so what can the police do if they break the curfew? warn to ring thier mums??????
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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So Mel a non violent idea at curbing the lawlessness is dismissed out of hand? These yoofs are not scared of prison,not scared of the police and certainly wont be scared by a water canon.
The curfews allow the police to stop kids on the street before violence begins therefore not having to wait for them to commit an act before arresting them. They can't claim ''we were doing nowt guv..just lookin '' etc It's called 'prevention'
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 644- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Another big problem with curfews is how does one enforce them? The Met are stretched to breaking point as it is and trying to impose a curfew on large sectors of London would be virtually unenforceable without military intervention. Indeed, it would suck officers out of riot control and may even escalate matters as all manner of thugs may come out onto the streets to deliberately flaunt it.
Guest 644- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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In principle yes to a curfew, but it's the practical application that concerns me.