howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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how is it a "needed service" if there is one two doors away?
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,895
Yes Keith I agree with your comment
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Guest 782- Registered: 4 Oct 2012
- Posts: 357
#136 "It looks to me like some posters are happy that these laws can be flouted," That is not what
I
am saying. What I am saying is that generally, if you want to make a fuss about these things it should be done even handedly about everything that is sailing in the same boat.
Going on, surely if these things are illegal by the "laws being flouted", there would not be such a thing as a Retrospective Planning Application, or applications for "Certificates for Lawful Use". I am not condoning any of this, what I am saying is that the system seems to allow for it so there is no point in getting worked up about it. I also believe that the enforcement officers do not enforce until an application is decided - and bearing in mind how long it takes to get anything through planning everyone will have forgotten about how much it annoyed them at the time!
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
howard have you seen the ques in the chemists these days.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
- Posts: 3,370
It's a temporary building what's all the fuss? ,The drugs will be in a drug safe.
Sheila,
A dog can be borne in a stable, doesn't make it a horse,
Being British is a bit more than the place you happened to be borne,
Meany cultures have been encouraged to cum to this country, bring with them ways we do not agree with.
Ignoring planning law being just one of them.
Benefit fraud being another, on a grand scale
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
This should be about the application and not get into personalities.
On the planning side whether you agree/disagree with the application there are regs to abide by
if we are saying you actually dont need to bother why then have the regs in the first place
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
brian
re; post 144
cannot see anything along there, a portacabin is blocking out all the views. takes all my sas training to circumnavigate it.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,540
Thanks for the snidey comment David.
I have been trying to clarify whether planning rules have been broken or not, by opening the Portacabin Pharmacy before a decision has been made and it seems that no breach has been made - because no decision has yet been made.
If any one would like to make any comments on this application - for or against, please do so by the 18th. of December, as that is the cut-off date, so the report can be made ready for the January Planning Committee meeting.
So you see, Dr. Premnath is not in breach of any Planning rules at all; I must be honest, I thought that "If they use it as a pharmacy, then they need planning permission", (which is the info. I received from the Senior Planning Officer) meant that the Pharmacy could not be opened until PP had been granted.
Roger
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
- Posts: 2,594
It seems DDC are in a state of paranoia on this forum. Your post hardly reassures people Roger, you're not meeting for a couple of months, which is exactly what people are concerned about.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 5,673
As far as I am concerned the business should have put in an application month ago to give it time to go through the system - the application was only put through last month and to be decided next month, doesn't seem unreasonable timescale to me and that is how the process will work up and down the country....
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 652- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 595
Roger,
one minute they are saying, yes he is breaking the law, he does this at his own risk, now they are saying he is not, I might be reading between the lines, but there seems to be a cover up somewhere, going the same way as a previous application Roger, that person went ahead without planning consent (remember), an enforcement notice was served but they got away with it didn't they. just had to tell a hard luck story, and Bobs your uncle everything turns out rosy.
As Keith says why bother to pay for to have plans passed, when this is stating clearly that there is not really a need to
Guest 782- Registered: 4 Oct 2012
- Posts: 357
Well there we are. This can now be put to rest until after the committee meeting in January. Will be interseting to see if they get the report done in time for that, lets hope so.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
so we are stuck with this monstrosity until after the festive season, could have been worse i suppose if it had been spring none of our seeds would have germinated within a 100 yards of it.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 5,673
Application Received Date
Tue 09 Oct 2012
Application Validated Date
Fri 12 Oct 2012
Expiry Date
Fri 07 Dec 2012
Neighbour Consultation Expiry Date
Mon 19 Nov 2012
Standard Consultation Expiry Date
Mon 19 Nov 2012
Last Advertised In Press Date
Fri 26 Oct 2012
Latest Advertisement Expiry Date
Mon 19 Nov 2012
Last Site Notice Posted Date
Fri 16 Nov 2012
Latest Site Notice Expiry Date
Mon 19 Nov 2012
Target Determination Date
Fri 07 Dec 2012
Determination Deadline
Fri 07 Dec 2012
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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In the long run I highly expect the application to be turn down and turn into a very costly exercise by the applicant
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 782- Registered: 4 Oct 2012
- Posts: 357
There is no reason to turn down the application.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,540
David, the planning committee met last Thursday - the 22nd. The next one will be the 13th. of December, so hardly "not sitting for a couple of months". Some months we have two meetings - not a grumble, just a staement.
Simon, on Planning grounds that may well be true and we must only judge it on those grounds, but I am not getting into the "predetermining" argument.
I'm trying to be factual, not biased.
Roger
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,895
I would have thought there was no need to approve either as there is a pharmacy nearby. All depends on what mood the Planning Dept and Committee are in on the day I should think.
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,540
It will have nothing to do with what mood any of us are in Jan.
Roger
Guest 782- Registered: 4 Oct 2012
- Posts: 357
Whether there is another Pharmacy down the road is completely and utterly irrelevant to planning consideration. If there was a town plan that prescribed the make up and number of outlets then that might be differrent, but I don't think there is.
However, the determination date is 7th December, because of the amount of objections the matter will have to go to committee. I have been waiting since 21 July for a matter I am involved with to get to committee, so it will be interesting to see which christmas this one gets done by!!
