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    #136 "It looks to me like some posters are happy that these laws can be flouted," That is not what I am saying. What I am saying is that generally, if you want to make a fuss about these things it should be done even handedly about everything that is sailing in the same boat.

    Going on, surely if these things are illegal by the "laws being flouted", there would not be such a thing as a Retrospective Planning Application, or applications for "Certificates for Lawful Use". I am not condoning any of this, what I am saying is that the system seems to allow for it so there is no point in getting worked up about it. I also believe that the enforcement officers do not enforce until an application is decided - and bearing in mind how long it takes to get anything through planning everyone will have forgotten about how much it annoyed them at the time!

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