howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i remain absolutely certain that the planning application for this pharmacy went in ages ago, will have to try and track down the thread.
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
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Keith #20, nobody is ever totally impartial about anything it is called having a view or opinion, I suspect there will be others on the planning committee who will go to the meeting with entirely the opposite idea. Another thing opinions can change when an alternative views are heard.
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I worded my posting very carefully so as not to give a bias Keith, I am neither for or against it, but have made a number of observations and raised some questions; nowhere in my posting is any there bias or predetermination.
I wouldn't expect you to be supportive of anything I do or say Keith; I know what I have put - if you would rather me not post on here, or give a view because I am a Councillor, or because I am on the Planning Committee, that's fine, I don't have to post or contribute.
I have this morning written to the planning department about the porta-cabin pharmacy being prematurely put there. It'll certainly give me more time to do other things.
Roger
Keith Sansum1
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Roger
to me i dont care if you post or not
certainly before today i have congratulated you when i have agreed with
but you have to take the rough with the smooth, more so as a cllr(i know iv been there for 25 years)
I merely point out how your comments could be seen by anyone involved in this application both for and against once a decision has to be made.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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don't take it personally roger just a bit of red/blue forum banter.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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and advice howard
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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The planning committee follow the `advice`...more like the instructions of the Officers....the Hospital is a tragic example...
I remember a `certain` planning committee members contribution being ``All we need to do is clear out the drains`` and
another `certain` lady`s contribution being ``I have never seen a puddle two inches deep on Maison Dieu``....when in fact the
Officers knew it was on a Flood Plain...the majority lack basic construction knowledge and ability to ask the right
questions........
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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therein lies the problem, planning laws are very complicated and do the councillors on the planning committee have enough knowledge and experience to make a judgement?
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Howard;
mine was advice, to an observer the words used indicating the application will enhance the area)(100 hour service, plus a store etc) to an impartial outside person would give the impression of support for the application.
Now the best route if any doubt is let officers see the article and advise
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Keith, you might not care about Roger posting but I do and expect others care as well so Roger please keep your informative posts coming.
Howard, I doubt it but they have got the experience of life which should help a little, I would hate any unelected official having the final say about anything.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Jan;
I'm happy to read/reply to anyones postings, whatever there political colour or non political.
but i wont beg them to stay.
As I'v said before it's a choice thing.
My posting was one trying to help, but clearly not seen that way,
let's hope then i was wrong
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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# 31...Officers do not make the final decision ever ...because when it all goes pear shape their answer always is ......
...``The Council decided``..........but they always ``engineer`` the decision .....all Councils are officer `lead`........
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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reg
i think you will even get peters support on that one
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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no keith he is wearing it himself at the moment, no chance of him lending it out.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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ha ha
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Reg I agree with you about "they always engineer the decision" but thank goodness they do not always get the answer they want be it right or wrong.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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sadly jan its very rare
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Each planning application that comes before the committee will have a recommendation - for approval or refusal; we do not follow blindly that recommendation, but make our own minds up.
Roger
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Keith, your comment: "to an observer the words used indicating the application will enhance the area)(100 hour service, plus a store etc) to an impartial outside person would give the impression of support for the application" is not quite what I said, which was:
"What is it that people are objecting to ?
A new bigger longer-opening hours chemist
A new bigger greater choice convenience store
Many new medical facilities that may enhance and enrich people's lives"
The above are facts, not opinions.
Roger