howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Christine is correct Porchlight have stopped covering Dover, two branches in Canterbury though.
Guest 1935- Registered: 2 Dec 2016
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:I wouldn't have called post 114 offensive in any way, there were no personal insults, just a member stating an opinion.
Really struggling here.
Calling someone names on a forum is is more offensive than blaming victims of persistent anti social behaviour for causing a problem by complaining.
They are victims for goodness sake not criminals.
Guest 1935- Registered: 2 Dec 2016
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Keith Sansum1 wrote:Howard of course when someone (unknown) doesn't like what is being said they attempt to dismantle it .
Thankfully Iv never been in the position of those needing the soup kitchen, but recognise the need
Still hopefully in line with forum debate it would be nice to know who your debating with rather than hiding behind names, but that's another issue
Seems criticism is not allowed, even when you comply with the forum rules.
I want to see a solution to the problem of antisocial behaviour that is putting the Soup Kitchen at risk and has caused this situation in the first place.
You seem to want to blame everyone one for not accepting the problem being located or relocated on their doorstep.
Identities has nothing to do with that debate.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
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Identities does play some part,
but lets put that to one side.
If we take it that if someone complains in a ward wherever that may be, the soup kitchen will
never exist
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Guest 1935- Registered: 2 Dec 2016
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You are fudging the issue.
DDC had to satisfy itself that the level of antisocial behaviour was sufficient to close the soup kitchen.
They would not have done that lightly (because of the bad press, which they ultimately got).
Moving it into another community without addressing the anti social behaviour problems is irresponsible.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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It was probably irresponsible the way the decision was made, but that is ongoing andhopefully lessons will be learnt and a new site found
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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Photo on another forum ,porta cabin has been removed fromPencester..Keith the Police should have been in and around Pencester whilst Soup Kitchen was open.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Jan Higgins
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To be fair on those who complained who can blame them if there were problems with those who use the soup kitchen.
I know if they were near me I would have complained if there were problems and I am willing to bet so would the majority of this site's members.
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Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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Howard, Post #121. Porchlight still operate in Dover and have a facility at Fern Court on Leybourne Road. I saw some of their volunteers out in town and on the sea front on the 30th November.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Thanks for info Neil looks like they have just closed their town centre office. Very confusing as their website just throws up Canterbury if you type in Dover.
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Sue Nicholas wrote:Photo on another forum ,porta cabin has been removed fromPencester..Keith the Police should have been in and around Pencester whilst Soup Kitchen was open.
Deary me this isn't going well, its clear that some unsavoury characters were associated with the soup kitchen, it is perfectly understandable that people don't want a police supervised set-up outside their house every day.
The politicians (well, wannabes) on here talk of finding solutions while ignoring the views of residents. It seems they're just posturing as usual, keen to be seen as caring, sharing people whilst ignoring the problems. Police resources are limited, they don't have the manpower to supervise a soup kitchen on a daily basis, nor should they need to.
As usual its those in genuine need who miss out and the volunteers who get most frustrated as politicians squabble and pontificate.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Well I will continue to work with the volunteers from the soup kitchen, council, local residents, and all those that can help to make it happen
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Keith Sansum1 wrote:Well I will continue to work with the volunteers from the soup kitchen, council, local residents, and all those that can help to make it happen
Is it within your ward or are you looking at locations within your ward?
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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My friend has just told me the soup kitchen was operating from Stembrook car park this evening
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My friend has just told me the soup kitchen was operating from Stembrook car park this evening.
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What form did this take. ?
Is the Porta Cabin in situ? Hot or Cold Food.?
Thank you.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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I understand from the volunteers cars.I assume the soup was hot .
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christine.a wrote:Quote----#136
My friend has just told me the soup kitchen was operating from Stembrook car park this evening.
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What form did this take. ?
Is the Porta Cabin in situ? Hot or Cold Food.?
Thank you.
There was a choice of starters followed by a meat/fish/vegetarian option, all served with fresh veg, creme brulee for afters.
Its a soup kitchen for heaven's sake, I've no idea why so many people are pretending to be concerned from the comfort of their armchairs.
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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For once David you write something I can agree with.The soup kitchen is run by volunteers. .Some of the volunteers pay for the food,which over a period of time does not come cheap. Does Christine think they were cooking meals from the port a cabin...I already said in an earlier posting the money collected from one of my Civic Services went to provide good at the soup kitchen.
