Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Boris calls for a `U`turn on Police cuts.
Boris openly defies Flashman on cuts.Firefighters also have a case for `U` turn on their cuts.
No.10 ridiculed over threat to use `Water Canon` which is seen as Good Headlines but poor policing.
Boris`s political rock lobbed at Flashman rekindles their dislike for each other.The challenge is seen as untimely when the public mood is angery.
Cameron in difficult position as Tory senior/backbench members pride in their (in their opinion ) of being the party of Law and Order.
Added to his many problems is the lack of growth in the economy,the worsening global financial position which leaves him no room to manoeuvre.His ill-conceived policies of cuts ( too deep and too fast ) are begining to be a burden difficult to carry!!
Bank of England chief attempts to quash the idea that UK riots are in response to the Coalition Governments austerity programme.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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There can be no doubt about it Reg...Boris is certainly having 'a good riot'. His PR stature has gone up no end since the troubles began. When he visitied Clapham Junction the other day, Im sure i could hear the crowd in the background shouting, chanting, demanding...
"We Want Boris!" "We Want Boris!"
So he proceeded towards them broom held aloft, ready to sweep all before him, maybe even Cameron.
The reason for this is simple. he says what the public want to hear. Like for example he says "cutting the number of police is wrong." The embattled crowd love that one. He is also out there mingling with the beleaguered and the harassed. A PR mans dream with his tousled blonde hair and ready smile..
On the other hand doing the rounds of the studios is Baroness Varsi. Why the Tories have suddenly wheeled her out is bewilderng. She is awful in PR terms and surely a mistake. only recently there was much whispering that she had been sidelined, mothballed...you can see why! Not a sympathetic figure, not much warmth there for the suffering populace.
Keith Sansum1
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paulb;
a few streets earlier and boris was being bood and asked to resign.
on here before today the tories own supporters are showing they prefer boris to cameron(thats a worry in itself llol)
theres so much going wrong for cameron i suspect hes already visited the travel agents
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Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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I think Boris met the criticism head on..there was bound to be criticism and the odd boo. But in general terms they were fondly and loudly chanting his name. Golly...you dont see that very often for a politician.
Nick Clegg on the other hand got some serious booing.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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paulb;
doesn't it worry you that there could a leadership election soon
and worse, boris could win?
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Reg - I am not going to bother with answer too much of this rot but I am surprised that you still go on about the 'too deep to fast' crap. Recent events have clearly shown how Osborne is doing only just enough to prevent downgrading. Darlings plan would either have resulted in a downgrade or he would have made cuts much more in tune with Osborne. It is such a discredited claim you are making - 3.4% over 5 years by Osborne while the 'old' Obama plan of 3.9% over two years was not enough to stave off downgrading.
Of course, as usual, you will ignore the facts to carry on pursuing the Labour economic fantasy land that got us into this mess in the first place.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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He never struck me as Prime Minister material Keef, but generally people warm to him in a big way so anything is possible. He says what comes into his head...not a terribly good trait in a prime Minister but like I say, anything is possible. He is certainly a bright pin with a full deck.
I dont think there is a cats chance in hell for example of Ken Livingstone beating him in the London Mayor election. Ken has had his day, he looks old and tattered and from another era, he doesnt have that certain something any more. Boris would be hard to beat. Ken was on TV whingeing. Wasnt good. Not a good response during the riots.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i saw that interview with red ken, looked nothing like his old self, seems to have completely misjudged the public mood with his comments.
a very sad reflection on our political masters that boris johnson could be considered as prime minister material, however we have said before on here it i all comes down to being telegenic and knowing which cliche to use in any given situation.
flashman(that;s for you reg) has it in bucket loads.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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yep
but as barryw will tell you
boris just saying what people want to hear will in time backfire on him
of course we will see camerion attempt to silence boris before long
but it is a worry that conservative supporters feel boris would make a better prime minister
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Cameron blames the Police.Boris praises the Police.Police Chief says Cameron return from holiday/Cobra irrelevant to the riots being taken under `control`.Boris being in the wings not helping Flashmans concentration.
Cameron under pressure is using the blame game.targets being Theresa May and Police.He already has a strong coalition against him Labour,Boris and some of the Tory press.He must be aware the `piranhas`are begining to group and they always enjoy a good meal.
The Post-mortem of the riots will be more revealing and put more presure on Cameron/Osbourne cuts.Too deep too fast.Comparisions being made to Los Angeles 1992 where youth unemployment,no hope society etc being among reasons given.
The no growth economy is also a constant pressure.Banks lending is up to target but is not helping.
Investment `johnies` ( those that use the money ) have always been the greedy ones to make a fast buck have never helped the economy,only their own are to have their ``Short Selling``tactics taken away.Not before time it never helped any economy.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I will be putting an explanation shortly about short selling Reg on another thread as you clearly need to find out what it is, as your statement shows you don't know. But then as I have said before you go on to make statements and always just ignore the facts that are inconvenient.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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BARRYW;
I have tried to explain to posters(and you) our REG has a great deal (probably more than yourself, but wont argue on that one)
of financial expertese in both the world market and this country.
Getting back to what the thread is realy about,
We have over past weeks seen so many u turns, bad decisions, splits in tory party, splits in co olition, that like it not, it's all crumbling for our DAVE
You could see during boris's interview our dave cringing and im sure they will have had a few words after.
trouble is, in all of this boris looks good, and even the tories own supporters prefer boris to our dave
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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dave does look a bit rattled at the present, blaming the bill backfired badly on him, this chap sir hugh orde stood by his officers and was very defiant about the politicians role in the whole thing.
his statements about tough sentencing and that age would not make any difference have come back to haunt him almost immediately.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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howard;
talking tough, but action no
and there are so many cracks opened up or opening up
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Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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Cameron seems to have fallen out with senior police officers today. Probably only a minor fall-out as there is a difference of opinion as to who instigated the choice of tactics that eventually brought peace to our streets. Cameron initially was claiming the credit, which didnt go down well with the senior boys in blue.
ah...we posted at the same time
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Noticed that clegg doesnt realy look any better in all of this.
boris looking good for the tories
aint this all a worry to us all
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Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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The best Libdem these days who still has a bit of voter credibility is Simon Hughes. Clegg is still gazing skywards at PMQ longing for greener pastures, looks out of it. Cleggs former competition for the leader role, whatsis name, him with the ongoing motoring enquiry.. is finished too.
Hughes is edging towards the top slot there and may restore some crdibility to the party...in time.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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hughes is looking like the real deal for the yellows.
best laugh i have had was hazel blears on skynews demanding to know why the kids were not at school.
i think that our political masters live on a different planet to the rest of us.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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just a side line, i met hazel blears in warrington, very small lady(in height) lol
but back to the thread,
simon hughes would have been leader i think had a scandal on him not been raked up, but he is the business.
clegg a finished man lost all credibility.
is it correct boris is booking up a removals company
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Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Boris has no chance of becoming leader of either the Tories or the country and there are even calls for him to be toppled as the London Mayor.
He was on holiday in Canada with his missus when the riots broke out and was reluctant to return home. His wife was giving him one last chance to mend his errant ways having recently turfed him out of the marital home and bed.
As an aside MP's are allowed to claim expenses for their return to the UK to sit in parliament. Yet more cost to the taxpayer thanks to the mindless rioters.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
