Keith Sansum1
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Does anyone else find it strange
I dont think UKIP will ever be the 2nd party
they will take votes off of labour and more off the tories
but thats about it
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Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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They are all losing votes overall as all parties are just as bad as each other, with pointless sniping and point scoring rather than getting on and doing something to try to sort the problems......
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Philip, UKIP does not oppose a principle whereby the PROPER technology is used for renewable energy.
To date, the Government does not know which technology, and for years I've been saying that the present windmill system is inadequate. UKIP does not oppose research into a cost-effective approach to reduce carbon emissions.
That's why we need research into this mater, but my point was, in the previous post, it's no use researching and then shipping the blue-prints of an invention off to China for them to ship the material to all the world, while we pay for the whole world's energy installations.
If we invent the right idea to produce green energy cost-efficiently, WE should also produce the infrastructure and SELL it, world-wide, and share the profits out in OUR Country. The Chinese would eventually copy it anyway.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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4th party maybe
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Brian Dixon
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Keith, with Tory MPs emigrating to America during their term in Parliament or joining "I'm a celebrity - get me out of here", expect more by-elections, and wait and see the tendency!
I don't blame these MPs who are doing this, it is a cry for help: "Get me OUT of here!"
We must oblige and vote them OUT!!! The Tories are finished! The Chancellor has failed! It is written everywhere in the Press.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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If it's in the press it must be right then.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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OK, Peter, it's written in the official figures that Government borrowing is up and way beyond the Chancellor's predictions.
Even Barry has been stating this for a long time, that the Chancellor has got it wrong.
Barry rightly states that spending cuts should be deeper and faster.
Alas we have seen a string of royal bank holidays that have carved massive holes in the GDP and effectively caused a national recession and a double-dip recession to boot.
We've got bonuses in the order of tens of billions of pounds a year being paid out to chief execs.
Hague's sleepy department has a paid off-sick rate five times higher than the average.
Billions of pounds on taxes are being collected and shipped off as aid to foreign countries, at least one of which has more millionaires than Britain.
The Chancellor has decided his insane plans to halt the budget deficit must go years beyond Parliament's 2015 expiry date.
Who is he kidding? Surely he doesn't believe he'll be in again after the next GE, or does he?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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stranger things have happened alex, maybe the blues could strike a deal with ukip?
besides the reds don't actually look a good alternative government as things stand.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Howard, if the Tories do not come to an agreement with UKIP, they are a gone party.
Tory voters in their majority would inevitably go over to what they see as the closest party, and as it stands now, the combined supporters of the two parties are one third UKIP.
But if UKIP go for a degree of social policy, such as more financial income for workers on minimum wages and for a detailed project to create employment, they may well attract many Labour supporters too.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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If the Tories go over to UKIP they get Labour.
How much more pain do they want?
I like Nigel Farage but he not his one man band rent-a-quote guide to policies.
Watty
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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swings and roundabouts paul, for more years than i care to remember a third party that is more left than the reds ensures victory to the right.
things are much more even in that respect now.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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paulw is correct tories going over to ukip(and they are) will make labour's victory even bigger
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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hooray for that.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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So you want more wasting money Brian, even greater debt and less fiscal responsibility.
More Ball's ball-ups. You may like Labour for their previous socialist tendancies, but they are most definitely not socially responsible.
Roger
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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so you and barry keep saying roger.osteraty has slowed world econamy down so much,no one is buying or selling what they should.
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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The Guardian, which some still consider to be a reliable source of unbiased news, reported this about the former deputy of UKIP:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/dec/07/doha-climate-talks-ukip-lord-monckton
Compare and contrast the news report with the video:
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Speaking afterwards Lord M. told journalists that far from being ejected he was treated very well by security who tried hard not to laugh at the episode.
As I've said before UKIP's stance on climate change is that they don't believe it and are against renewable energy which is set to destroy our economy.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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Nigel Farage gets a taste of his own medicine at the EU.
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I believe this one is trending or viralling.. whatever that all means
..but its quite good!
Some interesting comments re his own gravy train.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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didn't appear to like it up him.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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...on the other hand, Nigel, we hear, has been on the fisheries committee for at least three years without attending any meetings, yet he has been on the committee for three years and not attended any meetings. What, if anything, can be done about this?
Not a lot, it seems.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
