UKIP is Britain's Second Party
- Keith Sansum1
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2 January 2013 09:51208022See peter we agree againALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - Brian Dixon
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2 January 2013 17:02208073vic,i would go,but i would be a year late,yawn.
- 2 January 2013 17:28208075Vic, what's the point of a public meeting if you won't tell people where it is being held?
Why do you have to give a name?
Are UKIP frightened of being exposed?
Watty - Brian Dixon
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2 January 2013 17:34208076and apart from that the date seems odd,as off last year. - 2 January 2013 18:02208083And a healthy one to you Vic.
Watty - 2 January 2013 18:10208085difficult to see it being an open meeting if people cannot just turn up, maybe it is about cobbling together a coalition with the blues?
- 2 January 2013 18:34208088Vic, see you're been listed as a UKIP cllr. Thought you stood as a independent for your Parish roles.
Can you clarify, I'm sure the public are confused?
What are you currently & if it's wrong I'm sure you will want to see it corrected?
Watty - 2 January 2013 18:45208090au contraire mr matcham your post clearly states an "open" meeting, but apparently not open to all.
- 2 January 2013 19:00208097If a meeting is open to the public, anyone can come along.
In this particular case, I don't know the exact details of whether it's a public open meeting.
But I would guess a lot depends on available space and that one'd have to book beforehand.
Keith, you are a wee misinformed in your analysis of politics UK.
The majority of Tory grassroots members want an alliance with UKIP.
At the last GE, with 3.5% of the vote, UKIP is reckoned to have cost the Conservatives 20-40 seats in Parliament.
Now, at 15% of public support (among those of the electorate who would vote), how many more seats would that equate to?
Then you should consider that in some areas of Britain, UKIP has relatively low support, in others a very large support among the public. In these areas where they have a large following, they could either win seats, or prevent the Conservatives getting seats.
A proper analysis should be done free of personal party preferences and (mischief
), in order to give a credible view.
Believe me, Keith, the Conservatives are VERY concerned and worried about UKIP. And this is a fact, not party propaganda.Chanters, Drums and Drones Potty Time http://youtu.be/99fMqpjnXYA
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2 January 2013 19:07208099confused,i know i am.how about you.will i get double nector points for turning up. - 2 January 2013 19:17208100Vic, I'm aware that you were not elected to any of your positions. But it does matter to your constituents when the description you put on your nomination form differs from your description but IS a political party & is shown on television interviews you had made.
Your nominees might also have been interested to know.
So what is it? You either announce to your constituents that you are Ukip or tell Ukip you are not one of their councillors. I thing that is only fair to your public.
Let me add Vic, this has nothing to do with your attendances or participation in the roles you currently undertake with diligence.
Watty - 2 January 2013 19:28208101I think it may mater more to constituents, that they have a liberal conman
Prime minster pretending to be a Tory! - 2 January 2013 19:36208102But he does not describe himself to his electorate as one thing & publicly declare another Keith. Whatever way you feel he acts.
Watty - 2 January 2013 19:41208104Oh Vic, so now you are contemplating coming back again after stating you were pulling out, you are confusing your fan club.
Watty - 2 January 2013 22:17208112To all those considering voting for the labour party come next election time bear in mind you will be voting for a party who still has this man in high office:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/1137824.stm
Great bloke eh? - 2 January 2013 23:25208117Howard, the meeting certainly has naught to do with cobbling together an alliance with the blues, who are divided between a disguised renegotiation of EU membership by trampling down democracy and denying an in/out referendum, and those other blues who want an in/out referendum.
UKIP have made clear that the campaign is for an all-out exit from the EU, no compromise, no negotiation. However, by way of Democracy, and not by imposing a bogus referendum with only one option.
One thing one can say quite reasonably of UKIP: the party rejects Tyranny and imposed dictatorship.
This is the minimum requirement to support the party, perhaps not the only one, but one of the essential conditions.
The Conservative leadership still rejects Democracy, as it refuses us an in/out referendum on EU membership.Chanters, Drums and Drones Potty Time http://youtu.be/99fMqpjnXYA
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2 January 2013 23:39208118Paulw;
hope you noticed his cop out
clearly stood as an indy now hes ukip
no wonder no one has faith in his ability to stay in one place
just goes with or whatever party he may get onto a council with little loyalty.
with regard to public meeting, if its a public meeting then its easy to put the date/time on here like any other public meeting
otherwise it';s a closed meetingALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 3 January 2013 08:19208146I support Vic on this issue: it's his business if he wants to be Vic Matcham no party or Vic Matcham UKIP.
It's not fair to bully people into changing their surname into that of a party. It could be harassing.
For example, I would stand as a candidate as Alexander Kent, Britannia's son.Chanters, Drums and Drones Potty Time http://youtu.be/99fMqpjnXYA
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Kent First http://youtu.be/04F3mAP3fV4 Keep banging on http://youtu.be/qYCU_SKmkGQ - Keith Sansum1
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3 January 2013 08:23208148Alexander,
Of course there is no problem standing for any/or no party, but i
people usually like to have an idea if you are with a party, which party, or no party.
Mr Watkins Indicated that this geezer stood as an indy, now has decided he's no longer an indy but is again with UKIP
(thats without all the other changes of parties)ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 3 January 2013 08:45208154I'm a member of British Party.Chanters, Drums and Drones Potty Time http://youtu.be/99fMqpjnXYA
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