Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Well said Howard.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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thanks vic it just seems a big con to me purely to save a few bob.
i notice your favourite department were at the centre of it, i am wondering whether they thought it up for themselves or were told to think it up.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I've never read that report before reading it just now and I've been on the Planning Committee since 2003 - what a load of rubbish.
That report was written to justify removal of the fountain without any real justification - why the Planning Department I don't know, I could understand (but not agree with it) the CSU/Police writing it.
As far as I am concerned, the fountain will/must be switched on normal time next year - in the Spring.
I can imagine that with several hundred people in the Market Square this Saturday, some pushing and shoving would/might result in someone getting wet.
Roger
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Take it from me Howard that planning dept are a law under themselfs,they take notice of no one only themselfs.
Guest 644- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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23rd Feb 09 Cabinet meeting:
"It is also recognised that other opportunities for revenue should be examined as part
of the overall process of regeneration in the town centre. For example, the fountain
in Market Square, which has ongoing maintenance challenges arising from potential
damage, could be closed and generate a revenue saving of circa £25 k if this was felt
to be appropriate."
£25,000 to operate the fountain? Crumbs.
http://www.dover.gov.uk/councillors/council_meetings/update/docs/agendacouncil050309.pdfGuest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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"arising from potential damage"
This is a thoroughly Orwellian statement.
"Don't have children...they grow up."
Far too many bean-counters and so, so little imagination.
If local amenities are beyond managing why do any of us need a Council?
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Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
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Looking at post #99 we'd better box the river off then and have done with it.
No difference really is there.
WHAT A BUNCH OF NUMBTIES.

grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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cannot disagree about any of the comments, have doubts about the figure of 25 grand to operate a pump that circulates recycled water for no more than 6 months a year.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Howard that is the point. It appears that the 'risk assessment' estimates that there is a POTENTIAL liability of £25K.
Think of a number, then double it, take away the figure for the year of your birth, factor in a good lunch...and what do you get?
IF, as had been the case, they took into account the actual disbursement of a year when extensive maintenance was required or a selection of annual expenditure figures...but no.
Joni Mitchell and her Big Yellow Taxi springs to mind.
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Guest 641- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Not only the river, box in the entrance to the channel.
Eureka! Thats why they drained Wellington Dock, sorry chaps no more boats, saves on the paperwork for mooring fees, what next? I know! the ferries - Elf & Safety gone mad

howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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please don't give them ideas barry.
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Oops!

Jan Higgins
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Just a very small thought.
I wonder how London manages with all the thousands of people that gather around the playing fountains in Trafalgar Square.

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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Now this is what I call a fountain. We have room for one of these in the harbour.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_d'Eau
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i have asked that question many times, how often do we see revellers jumping in those enormous fountains.
compare our little one to those.
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Looking on the bright side, the closure of the fountain may reduce the calls for more public loos?

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Only amongst middle aged men, Tom.
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Oh!? That's all right then Peter.

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