The beginning of the end of live exports?
- 14 September 2012 12:03191451They don't travel on the TEF ferries, Howard. None of the ferry companies will take them, thank goodness.
They use tiny ferries which they charter in. The current one is the Joline, which looks like a cross between a landing craft and the Isle of Wight ferry. - 14 September 2012 12:13191456A stunningly accurate description Ed...
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/shipdetails.aspx?MMSI=275402000Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing. - 28 September 2012 12:19193361"Suspension of live animal exports welcomed by RSPCA"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/28/live-animal-exports-suspendedIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing. - 28 September 2012 12:30193362How long before the Farmers get their way and a Kent Port starts live exports again?Audere est facere.
- 28 September 2012 13:46193363Interesting to see Laura Sandys sticking her environmentally sustainable, locally sourced oar in. If she's not content with blighting the minds of the young with stupid ideas about catastrophic climate change giving them nightmares or blighting the area with wind turbines she's concerning herself with animals.
Does she have any policies which actually intend to do some good for humans? - 28 September 2012 14:20193365if it was left to you philip there would be no other species than humans left on this earth.
maybe a polar bear cub or two but no more. - 22 November 2012 12:33202676
- 22 November 2012 12:42202679An excellent opportunity for a few changes to the play being performed at The Roundhouse just now?
http://www.dover.uk.com/forums/dover-forum/next-at-the-roundhouseIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing. - Brian Dixon
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22 November 2012 13:48202682what can one say apart from it being a leagle trade.at least the ships captain turned around and put his load ashore.
the only draw back was those screeming banchies at the dock entrance.frightend the hell out of me,let alone the poor sheep those lorrys where carrying. - 22 November 2012 15:19202692the ship should never had set sail with the weather forecast, also why was the rspca inspector not allowed to see the condition of the sheep for himself?
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22 November 2012 16:09202699The ship doesn't look fit for purpose, looks more like an Isle of Wight ferry. - Brian Dixon
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22 November 2012 16:10202700i think they where inspected before they came of the ship,by maff or nuf.one load was taken to a near by holding farm the other was taken up northampton way. - 22 November 2012 19:55202750alec
please see ed's post 21. - 22 November 2012 20:08202754These animal are lucky ,they have avoided the Halal uk legal butchers
I don't see these people outside the Muslim butchers - 22 November 2012 20:23202756not the point keith, the protesters are against the inhumane journey these creatures endure not the slaughter.
incidentally they end up killed the halal way by french muslims. - Brian Dixon
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22 November 2012 20:33202761howard/kieth,each to there own way.its the screeming banchies i feel sorry for,maybe the rspca ought to cheak them over first. - Alec Sheldon
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23 November 2012 15:52202885Thanks for that Howard #33. Ed's post was an old one, missed it. I was away in Sept. My p.c. has crashed and I am doing this on 7 inch tablet, hard work using the touch screen. - 12 December 2012 11:39205489
Live animal exports face tougher controls over welfare concerns...
"Farmers, transport companies and ship operators involved in the export of live animals face tougher controls over their business as ministers seek to allay welfare concerns over the treatment of livestock.
Government inspectors are already said by ministers to be checking all shipments through Ramsgate in Kent, the only port now involved in the trade - albeit reluctantly - and this will continue until the government is satisfied "there is no longer a high risk" to animals.
Lorry companies and shippers will also not be allowed to give short notice of shipments to the agency, the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) said on Wednesday. This happened last month in an attempt to evade protests by welfare campaigners at the port where more than 40 sheep had to be destroyed on the advice of the RSPCA after an incident in September."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/dec/12/live-animal-exports-controls-welfareIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing. - 13 December 2012 07:35205575This is a big day in the House of Commons re the animal export problem...a process which is " costing the Kent Taxpayer a significant amount of money"
Had the following info in from Laura Sandys who is leading the charge this very day in The House, read on my friends read on...it will I expect all be on the Parliamentary Channel later, which of course is essential viewing for nerdy types like yours truly...
See Below..
Sandys Leads Live Animal Export Action Week
This week in Parliament, Laura Sandys MP, is spearheading the campaign against live animal exports from Ramsgate Port, is presenting a petition from Thanet to the Speaker and is leading a debate in the Chamber. This is the culmination of the pressure that she has been putting on the Government to place much greater restrictions on the live animal trade from the Port of Ramsgate.
Laura Sandys, MP for South Thanet said, "Not only am I presenting a petition from the people of Thanet reflecting their disgust at the trade, but I have secured an historic debate on animal welfare - the first backbench debate on animal welfare in the Chamber in this Parliament."
"I am fed up with a trade that has resulted in 50 animals being slaughtered on the portside at Ramsgate. While our long term objective is to ban live animal exports through the EU, my aim through this debate is to highlight where I believe animal welfare standards are not being enforced effectively enough. In the debate, I will be particularly focusing upon the following three issues:
· "Fit and Proper" Transporters: I need to get clarification on how many infringements an operator can commit before they are deemed neither fit nor proper to undertake this trade.
· Cost of Licensing: We do not charge enough for the cost of the licensing and the expense of the enforcement of this trade. License charges must reflect the fully loaded costs of the trade to the taxpayer.
· Lack of Facilities: In order to achieve the highest levels of animal care, a port without unloading pens or slaughter facilities is totally inappropriate for the trade, particularly if the port needs to manage crises that require emergency measures.
The Port of Ramsgate has had to tolerate this trade for two years, costing the Kent taxpayer a significant amount of money, without facilities appropriate for the trade. Clearly this has gone on far too long."
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There you have it.. Pictures show Laura Sandys of course as you can see, and John Bercow The Speaker, on the right.email: dover7@msn.com - Jan Higgins
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13 December 2012 08:01205579Laura Sandys must surely have the support of the majority of the population on this awful exportation situation.
The vast majority of our animal export trade is for food so they should be sent chilled or frozen, so blow (polite version) those foreigners who want to pretend they are selling home slaughtered or raised meat.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
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