howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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roger
trying not to be pedantic but after reading your last post i checked the houses either side of me and two houses at my end of clarendon street, none have received leaflets.
more importantly will you provide evidence of your earlier accustion?
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
peter,thats why i want a tory one.
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No problem on reserves Keith , we keep within the Auditors recommended levels unlike you & your Party when in power.
It's simple, you set a budget [balanced] & work to it.
If factors change you deal with it throughout the year & at out turn.
That's the way its always been except when you were in power & budgeted for more than council tax etc. would finance.
£750k spend more than your income in your last year!!!
The tragedy some of the same crowd are still around, what faith can the public have in your mates?
Just to make the point your mate Ed. M has said he is considering removing the council tax cap .
So why should we believe your denial [by proxy] that Labour won't introduce a council tax increase in September. YOUR GOOD FRIEND Mike Eddy has publicly declared he intends to have a September budget, JHG has confirmed this.
Watty
Watty
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Jan , you have made my point , you find most of it boring & a switch off.
Watty
A bit like the National Government: when they made promises prior to taking control they failed to take into account the reality they would find when they moved onto the premises! I agree that Labour screwed up big style - they burned out as all long term governments do, and their take on budget management may not tally with mine, and there will always be differences of opinion about priorities. So when the coalition moved in they found a few unexpected entries on the ledger. In this way I do not understand how anyone hoping to win this election locally can make hard and fast promises until checking the balances. I would like to see more discussion about issues and philosophies that indicate to me the direction that will be taken rather than specific promises tyhat will inevitably be if not broken, distorted. Because if that happens all that will result in is more name calling and bickering.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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paul
irrespective of whether they have another budget if elected they still cannot levy a surcharge on the tax payers.
all they could do is move what money they have around the departments.
haing said that the reds will not say how this budget will affect people with regard to service cuts/ increases in prices.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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bern posted a better response at the same time as me, explained things more clearly.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,895
Paul W, I might have made your point but it does not stop you and the opposition nit-picking while trying to get the last word.
I still tend to skim through the political posts on here and think you are all behaving like little kids.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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jan,well said.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Labour have made promises, albeit vague ones, which imply a spending commitment. Money does not grow on trees therefore one of the following is inevitable:
1. Raise council tax
2. Cut other services
3. Plunder the reserves.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 670- Registered: 23 Apr 2008
- Posts: 573
Perhaps somebody could remind me which party had overall control when DDC lost the council taxpayer one million pounds?
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
- Posts: 3,205
Mike Eddy never said he would have another Council budget in September,he said we would revisit the budget and change the priorites,we have NEVER said we would increase Council Tax this September,once again the Tories are putting 2+2 together and making 5.Must use the same accountance as they read the Council budgets.
There is no back tracking,it was a clear statement,so just in case Paul and Roger had problems with the wording,NO BUDGET INCREASE IN SEPTEMBER. just a realinement of the Council spend,as the current Council do at regular intervals throughout the year.
Budgets are set upto 15 months in advance,they are never set in stone when the budget was set in early 2011 it is for the following year eg April 2011 to April 2012 and they have and will change,nothing new there then,so what is the fuss,scaremongering again.
The only reason Peter Council tax hasn't gone up this year is the Goverment told Councils not to put up taxes and they were promised 3% from the Goverment but with inflation running at about that amount the increase from the Goverment is taken out by inflation and to the Council is worth next to nothing.
Cut services far from it,as I said do we need a legal team on 10 at DDC or would you rather have more Dog Wardens,Community Development Officers cut to 2 1/2
more gardeners and Green space provision.just an examp;e.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
- Posts: 3,205
Not lost Dave,and here the voice of reason will tell you that the money was invested in a safe a place as could be expected,and we will get most of it back but it could take years.We are still getting money back from the Commerce Bank that collapsed years ago.
But why am I telling you this even in opposition as no doubt Paul and Roger will tell you that I am wrong,and I made it up.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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I just could not bring myself round to reading the guff on the campaigning leaflets, so don't know what all the karfaffle is about with someone telling lies about someone else telling lies; it's just waffle in its sheer form.
We went to Farthingloe farm today and saw some Shetland ponies and a donkey.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
john
your party should have made that clear a lot earlier, can you give more detail as to how things will be different from the current administration if elected?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
alex
you sound sore that your chosen party has elected to ignore dover.
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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I have given a few above Howard but I am not standing for a Senior Post so these discussions will go on when we see the books,but as I have said nothing major will change during the coming year,except we will be looking to increase frontline activity by looking at some of the ideas we have discussed.But as I have said there will be no increase in Council Tax,even though the Goverment has sweetened everyone up by saying there will be no rise in Council Tax in May.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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What is strange looking at the Candidates is the Aycliffe situation where the Tories have not decided to have a Candidate but seem to have come to an agreement to let,Chris Precious run against Labour,
Also in Mill Hill in Deal where the Tories only have 2 candidates for 3 seats,yet the Lady standing in Tower Hamlets is from Deal,I understand from a Leading Tory that there was a c**k up with the paper work and they had to change and bring in the lady in at the last moment as Ian Ward from St Margarets was going to stand in Tower Hamlets.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,895
St Margarets is no better than Deal, what do either of them know what my area is really all about. Candidates should live in or at least near the ward they represent.
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Guest 670- Registered: 23 Apr 2008
- Posts: 573
Thanks JHG, putting it in to perspective the one million pound loss is equivalent to almost 700 council taxpayers, paying say £1500.00 per annum, taking their hard earned cash to the DDC offices and flushing it down their toilets.
Glad they don't handle my finances.