Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,888
The phrase that irritated me the worst from that article was the very last sentence it conjures up such a depressing image.........
"A southern town with northern levels of poverty"........I would like the reporter to come back on a warm summers day and see if she felt the same.
Vic, I think you are reading something into Roger's post that is not there, like I could with yours with that dig at both major parties knowing where your support lies.
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I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
clair is of the opinion that the district could be left with a high level of debt, she hasn't actually come out for or against it yet.
certainly not a party political issue if you look at the personnel involved with the dppt.
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
- Posts: 2,095
Vic.
I felt your way for a very long time but facts can't be altered. The DHB has been wasting £millions over the years and has decimated its workforce with total disregard to the people of Dover/Deal.
Put aside your worries and think about it hypothetically, how could you not want the Port of Dover being run for the people of Dover/Deal, by the people of Dover/Deal?
Roger.
Clair and Charlie ARE working together, on a few projects that I know of and they are doing so for the good of our community.
You should really give both of them more credit, than branding them with yours and others, silly party point scoring.
"My New Year's Resolution, is to try and emulate Marek's level of chilled out, thoughtfulness and humour towards other forumites and not lose my decorum"
Guest 688- Registered: 16 Jul 2009
- Posts: 268
Hi Howard,I do think what Clair said ,in fullness, has been taken and condensed to give the article a political frisson.I am not speaking for Clair,but from my inference she has made her position perfectly clear ,in that she stands with those opposed to the current D.H.B. push for privatisation.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
that's my understanding john, but she is not totally sold on the people's port as an alternative.
Guest 688- Registered: 16 Jul 2009
- Posts: 268
Howard,stop that most blatant dash for cash and a real dialogue on the future of the Port and the district,together and indivisible, can begin.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
- Posts: 4,010
# 440....spot on...
As with the Hospital we must keep politics out of this.....
However we do need to take the rose tinted glasses off about Dover ....behind the superb sea front and promenade the
town is a mess....as leader of the Council in 1998/ 1999 I had the privilege to submit the DTIZ proposal to Council....
..........we still await progress to commence the project....
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 5,673
#447 - didn't do a very good job then ?
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,540
Thanks Gary; I'm pleased to hear that Clare and Charlie are working together for the benefit of the District. I don't do silly party-point scoring and I'm sorry if that's what it appeared to be.
We have had in the past and we still do have sometimes, decisions made that seem more allied to party-politics than actual benefit to the Town.
Roger
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
- Posts: 4,010
# 449..........first paragraph....surely you jest...
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 14,118
My support is with no party over the port or the town,I have seen both partys at work from the late 1940 right up to this time and say again both partys have let the town down and still doing it,I no need to say where my support for the port is ,but onece again.it is not with the DH.B OR THE so called P/P
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
sounds like you are with clair then vic.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 14,118
I am with no one,just telling you what is true and fact. Dover has been let down,they can not take away the great history of this great town and some of the public that live in it,but both partys have taken what was left away. It will never never be the same again.
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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It could be if we all worked together on it
"My New Year's Resolution, is to try and emulate Marek's level of chilled out, thoughtfulness and humour towards other forumites and not lose my decorum"
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 14,118
No it would take alot more than that,take out the partys,and put in their place members of the public who care and have Dover in their hearts and cash in their pockets. Then we might be on the right road,and I said might.And the first thing on the list is Stop the building of one bedroom flats and try to get more upclass public wanting to move into our district etc.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
Still no decision by the majority party in govt so until the decision is made, little progress will be made
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
came across this by chance on the web, forms part of a lengthy thesis from neil's aristocratic friend lord glasman.
It enables us to talk about Land Reform and Community Land Trusts as a way of including people in the property owning democracy by transferring the freehold asset to communities. In housing that means that the price is halved and there can be a genuine and affordable house building programme. It is also applicable to Dover Port for example and offers an alternative to privatisation and nationalisation that works in the interests of all the people of Dover and brings capital, labour and the town together in a common concern for its flourishing.
One Nation is both a radical and a conservative idea and that is why it works. It retrieves a tradition from within our nation history and through it generate greater solidarity and inclusion. Labour, in recent years, has shown a tremendous respect for diversity and pluralism. This is greatly to our benefit and it was right to do so. What was missing was a balance, an account of how that diversity can generate better forms of the common life, of how it could nourish and sustain the common good. One Nation Labour corrects that imbalance.
Ed Miliband has retrieved, from what his Dad might have called the 'dustbin of history' a great gift to his party. In order to live and grow it must be supported and cared for by many hands. It offers the possibility of great years ahead.
Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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News from DHB
"
Press Release
13.11.2012: For immediate issue
Long-term future of Freight Services Agency secured
In a deal that will see Motis Ireland Limited take over the Freight Services Agency (FSA) business at the Port of Dover, Dover Harbour Board (DHB) confirms that contracts have been signed and exchanged with a well respected freight services provider.
Bob Goldfield, Chief Executive, Port of Dover, said: "The deal has all been about delivering new opportunities for the business, adding value and securing its long-term future. This has to be good news for staff, our ferry customers, the community and, with the prospect of a lorry park, the county as a whole."
Paul King, Finance Director of Motis, said: "We look forward to operating and developing a thriving business, supporting the local economy and the ability of the Port to provide world-class services to its customers."
Dover District Council has welcomed the announcement, stating that the future prosperity of the Port is vital to the health of the local economy. Councillor Paul Watkins, Leader of Dover District Council, said: "The Port is the major employment site in Dover and must continue to prosper. Furthermore, with the shortage of appropriate lorry parking facilities in the county, the creation of a lorry park will be of great benefit to both Dover and Kent in offering suitable provision, keeping Dover's streets clear of lorries and thereby helping to create the right environment for attracting much needed inward investment."
The deal reflects DHB's commitment to exploring opportunities to develop and grow the business and to securing jobs or creating the environment in which new opportunities can be realised.
Bob Goldfield added: "We warmly welcome Motis Ireland Limited to Dover and are excited by their plans for the FSA, which will utilise their expertise and give Dover an edge in the marketplace. We wish them every success."
Issued by Port of Dover External and Corporate Affairs on 01304 240400 (x4422)"
Talking with various stakeholders the other week, workforce and our remaining freight forwarders may not concur with the above sentiments re the benefits of the sale of this profitable part of the port's undertakings.
Guest 776- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
- Posts: 95
DHB are just going ahead with their agenda, as per usual.
There will be wringing of hands, and oh dear, what could we do.
Strangest thing is nobody stops it, all over the years.
Who are Motis Ireland Limited? outside of Dover, that is for sure.
Thus, the Port is being sold off.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
yep in bits and bobs,commonly known as the back door.
