Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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They haven't taken sides, Vic. Gordon is open-minded about the issue, DTC took up the offer of a seat in order to be better informed. The fact that DHB took umbrage was not the Mayor's fault.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Well you have your views and I have mine sir.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
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Indeed, I think Peter accurately relates the present situation as I understand it .
Watty
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
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As far as a decision being made, the only person that knows is the Minister & he's not saying.
DDC checked with the appropriate civil servant last week, as we do on a regular basis & the answer is always the same, we don't know it's on the Ministers table.
Watty
Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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Same answer comes my way whenever it is asked.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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That tells me, you and your plans of a p/p will not win,or the D.H.B, WHICH MEANS that our way with the port in the safe hands of the Royal Charter is going to win by a mile.Time to hand back all the £10 notes to the members of the public.
Must say I was not one of them.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i would think most of the money would have been spent already on admin costs, people knew this when they joined.
Guest 776- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
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Oh, please.
Not the merry go round of the Royal Charter again
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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what royal charter.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Paul Carter leader of KCC is very well connected at Government level.When at County he was always one step ahead,even
with a Labour administration in power.
It is strange there appears to be no ``trickle down``information to our local Tory members !!!!!...and waiting for the
`appropriate civil servant``to divulge information on such an important subject is not the tenacity required........
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Somewhere I read, I think on the DPPT website, that a decision on the Port was due in September. It's October now.
Charlie recently promised on This is Kent (Dover Express) that a decision was coming soon.
So where does all this certainty come from?
Clearly a decision timetable has not been given by the DfT, as Paul W correctly states.
So some personalities are evidently trying to make believe something they have no evidence for (decision coming soon/in September 2012 etc.).
If we go by these prophecies, at some point we must realise that they are quite clearly just guess-work.
Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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Alexander, if you have read a decision date for the port then it certainly was not on the DPPT website and DPPT have not publicly indicated any date or month for a decision. I have certainly said that I hope for one soon, but then so does everyone. The only public date indication has been via Mr Elphicke on Newsnight in early October when he indicated that the Government would demonstrate its commitment to community ownership via its decision on the port of Dover within a month. Previously timetable indications were also given by our MP as being within the next few months (in August) and within the next month or so (in September). The only time that he did not preface what he said with the words "I hope for a decision ...." was on Newsnight in early October.
You should note that not only Paul W states that there is no clear timetable.
You may search high and low, but the only public indications for when a decision might be made have come from our MP and they have all come within recent months and pointed to sometime around the very end of October- beginning of November.
DPPT has been keeping in touch with the DfT regularly, but, as I stated in #425, most recent answers are that the papers are with the Minister.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Having made a check, you are right, Neil: it's Charlie who keeps coming out with these predictions of "coming soon".
Sorry!
On one recent occasion on uttering the phrase he was standing next to Lord Glasman and Thyself, hence my confusion. My sincere apologies there
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Guest 776- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
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paranoid? are we Mr Goldfield?
Political are we?
The people who throw all of this at us, are the ones who are making the money!!
There is no imagination, no flair, wasted thoughts and wasted lives.
The Port has had its day, no doubt about that, but in that, the DHB has had its day too.
It all needs to be kinder and more humble..
Dover is not grand or mighty, it should be for its inhabitants and the people who live here.
Oh Lord, we do deserve so much better than this.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,895
The opening paragraph of the article painted one of the most misleading images of Dover that I have read in a long time. Not much hope of people visiting the town after reading that.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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wasn't exactly positive, might have had a bad journey followed by sitting in a cold station cafe, then someone introduces him to john g which would have finished his day off completely.
Guest 776- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
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There are no bluebirds. Pull into Dover, and it's the geography and the poverty that hits you. The white cliffs sit like quarried giants against a dirty paper sky. They guard a sea that stretches moodily over the southern edge of England. For generations Dover has been an industrial power base; now a few pale kids work on the minimum wage at Costa Coffee. Others loiter around, out of work and out of hope. A southern town with northern levels of poverty.
Ahh, well, noticed JanH.
Not good publicity at all
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Certainly not a complimentary introduction to Dover.
If people want to paint a good or bad picture or story about Dover, it is easy to do so, it is a pity they didn't feel like writing a good one; maybe when they turned out of the station, they turned right up Folkestone Road and saw all the bins overflowing etc. instead of left into Town.
Quite a good write-up about the DPPT and DHB though. I thought the comment about Clare Hawkins needing to define what she wants or supports for Dover, is very true. I guess she can't support the same thing as Charlie does, as it wouldn't look good for the local Labour party.
Roger
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Here we go again blues v reds reds v blues both partys are part to blame for how Dover is today post 438 has some very good points in it,take note.