Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Peter, the consultation process of - I believe it was 2008 - that preceded the core strategy, did mention that 4,000 jobs were to be coming soon, it did not mention over a 30 year period.
The exact wording I'll have to look up and will convey it to you.
I'm not suggesting DDC made a wrong estimate, but possibly were given information just prior to the 2008 financial crisis that led to believe that thousands of jobs might be created, and also that Pfizer would expand.
My opinion is, the ensuing crisis that started that same year resulted in things taking a different course, such as Pfizer reducing their staff and not increasing their number.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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as far as i can remember pfizer were not hit by the financial crisis alex, i think it was more to do with development costs.
patents do not last that long and new drugs have to be continuously found.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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When the male sex pill was put out to all makers ,that was the end of their big winner,but T.C.P, still a good one and selling well,so not all bad news for them, and 200 will still keep their jobs there,and you never know it might all come back,if they can come up with a good pill again.
Guest 776- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
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Pfizer's have a huge base in Malaysia, like Rolls Royce. Ofcourse,
Whose new factory was opened by the Duke and Dutchess of Cambridge, no brownie points for guessing why
Sooo close to Bob Goldfields' heart...however, what has the above to do with the Port?
except that Mr Goldfield would love it all to be in the Far East.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Yes true Mrs Worsley ,They must have runout of things to say about the port, that has not been said before,I know I have.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Whatever the reason for Pfizer's scaling down in Dover District, Howard, it turned out to be the opposite of what was forecast in the consultations leading up to the core strategy.
If, as Vic says, only 200 people will still be working at Pfizer, it appears we may have a situation where there might be an abundance of vacant houses in Dover District, with a much higher percentage of low-paid jobs in the area, the sort of minimum wage jobs that don't allow people to get a mortgage on a new house.
Although I do recognise that the DDC Council couldn't foresee all this, I wonder if they had consulted with economists, when in 2008 they forecast an increase of jobs in the District, and who these economists may have been.
Consultants may have proved to be wrong back then!
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Christine, I doubt Dr. Goldfield has plans moving the Port abroad, or the White Cliffs, for that matter.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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alex
the enterprise park is going in the right direction i hear, hopefully many new jobs will materialise and there will be a new dawn for east kent.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Let's hope DDC and Thanet District Council can keep up the good work, Howard.
Keith Sansum1
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alexander
Im sure if DHB got there way then if the buyer was from the far east he would have no problem, as long as he got his golden handshake.
looks like our paulw in favour of D.H.B. and its privatisation?
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i would have thought he would have to keep out of taking sides.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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not realy, DDC hopefully holds a view?
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Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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The Town Council seem to have made their position clear-why not the District?
Never give up...
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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That does not mean they are right.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Charlie released a statement on a Port decision coming soon in the This Is Kent article to which Howard supplied a link the other day on the thread "Charlie and his Column in the Express".
Going by what the MP stated, a decision was expected soon.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
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Richard, I don't believe Dover TC has officially backed any proposal [unless I have missed the statement], as is the case with both KCC & DDC. Individual cllrs may have preferences but it appears to me that there are feet in both camps listening.
We have all responded with a list of requirements that reflects the way forward for Dover i.e. development, community benefit,worker incentives & pension fund deficit being sorted. Also we believe non operational land should be decoupled from DHB assets & made for e available for immediate redevelopment.
Who delivers it is for the government to determine by deciding on DHB submission. Still the only game in town in play.
Watty
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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paulw;
does that mean your in favour of the D.H.B. proposals?
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Keith, Dover TC has taken up the offer of a seat on DPPT's board (Gordon). DDC and KCC have not. DPPT's scheme ticks pretty much all the boxes on DDC's list of requirements whereas the DHB transfer scheme does not. DDC does not have an official view, and you cannot expect the Leader to express a personal opinion in a forum such as this.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Quite right Peter.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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And as a town councl I feel they were wrong to take sides.
