howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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so we have another 3 months of inaction, was there a particular reason that the debate was postponed peter?
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Smoke screens and mirrors....time to move on.
Keith Sansum1
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Lets hope for a decision from the limping cobbled together govt soon
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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not for a few years yet keith.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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maybe this limping cobbled together govt will get this one right??
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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I've just come back from Calais, and one can see clearly that there they use their port toll to great effect.
A thriving town with a class A pedestrian walk from the port to the town-centre!
Even the EU flag has been taken down from the Hotel de Ville and dispatched, with only the French Flag flying, like it should be in France!
In front of the main gardens, again only French flags flying.
What have we got? Chancellor Osborne and Austerity!
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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until 2018 at least alexander
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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..............and even then the Market Place will decide.......
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
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sorry but the uk will be still in ression then,no sign of the end of it untill 2030 at the earlyist.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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The delay is about fear of legal challenges as I have posted before. The West Coast line franchise syndrome is playing into this one.
As all players keep saying let's just have a decision.
Watty
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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if a decision is to be made before christmas then it must be very close as the commons breaks up a week or two beforehand.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Charlie has put all his cards on the idea that the DHB bid is a Labour idea from the last government.
So if the present Government (or DfT) accepted the DHB proposal, what would Charlie say then?
Surely, as a Tory MP, and considering all the efforts he has dedicated to the Port, he could not possibly do anything other than to resign.
Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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He has kept the good people of Dover sweet while probably knowing that the deal is all but done for full privatisation, he has one eye on the next election.
Audere est facere.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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you are not alone with your musings martin this could be another hospital type "triumph".
Ross Miller
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I can see so much egg on face - leave you psychics to work out whose face
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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The fact that Charlie campaigned pre-election for the Port NOT to be privatised but to remain a State asset, and then campaigned post-election for a form of Port privatisation, will come back to haunt him if the Port were to be privatised in accordance with the DHB bid.
The masses in Dover would never forgive him! In particular if it came about under a Tory-dominated Government.
People will rightly say that Charlie campaigned for Port privatisation.
The fact that 99% of Dover's District population have not joined DPPT tells volumes!
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Hanging on to your warped version of what happened there Alexander. Not worth repeating the facts as facts mean nothing to you and you prefer your own imagination to real life.
Guest 673- Registered: 16 Jun 2008
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Charlie certainly fought his election campaign on the basis of being totally opposed to privatisation - "Not on my watch" as he said at the time. Personally I took that with a pinch of salt as he was an ardent supporter of privatisation in other fields.
It was no great surprise when he came up with a privatisation plan not long after being elected. As we have since discovered, this was Neil's plan and had presumably been in gestation for some time.
Personally I think Charlie has been rather a good MP and doubt if anybody will hold it against him if the DHB proposal is successful.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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I think the thread is going a bit away from where maybe it should be?
At the end of the day we are, where we are, the peoples port with full support of the MP has campaigned to wrestle the grip of DHB and in its own form of privatisation take over the port from the DHB.
Now this has a lot of unanswered views/questions already highlighted, but at this time as myself and paulwand we still dont have paulw personal view on the DHB stand of privatisation) have said many times, the only proposal on the table at this time is whether or not DHB is able to take it's privatisation route.
Whilst it's applauadable for the peoples port to outline its ideas, until the conservative led govt makes a decision on the DHB bid nothing else can move forward.
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