Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Those of us who founded the DPPT and designed the proposed future structure of the port don't regard our proposal as a privatisation but a mutualisation for the benefit of the community. A long time before the election Charlie asked both Neil and me independently to come up with ideas for a plan B in case it looked impossible to head off DHB's privatisation plans. We both came up with similar concepts. Neil's ideas focused primarily on the governance and organisation while mine focused mainly on the corporate structure and financing.
All of us felt originally that, in theory at least, the trust port model worked perfectly well and was worth preserving. But the way the Ports Act is written means that even if DHB's present proposal was knocked back, there is no way to stop the present management or their successors having another go in a few years time. So we were looking for a solution that took the port 1. out of the political arena 2. away from the risk of being asset-stripped by a ruthless commercial owner and 3. and most importantly into the control of the community and other port stakeholders.
Ironically we now see the asset-stripping being carried out by the very people charged with the stewardship of the port, supposedly in the public interest.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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what assets are being stripped peter?
money seems to be spent on port activities recently with the new lorry park being worked on and the dosh spent on the "david church".
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Perhaps he means the outsourcing of a number of port activities, Howard.
Roger
Guest 688- Registered: 16 Jul 2009
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I think it was the Green Crossman that said the immortal words 'Stop,Look and Listen'.Howard,I think there is a difference between being forced to invest to achieve a short term objective and under taking that financial investment as a long term strategic 'vision',but hey it is their money at the end of the day,or is it?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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don't see outsourcing as asset stripping roger the infrastructure is still intact.
john
very entertaining as usual but i still don't see the loss of any assets, i agree about the "short term objective" and dppt have to take the credit for all the used oncers that d.h.b. have suddenly discovered in a drawer somewhere and spent on things.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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The market place is working............
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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If the assets within the Port's structure are privately owned and run, such as the ferry companies who own their own ships, that's not a problem, so long as the actual Port, in the form of ground-space and berths, is not privatised.
It should be a pay-to-use Community asset with two separate tolls, one for the Port, and one for the Community.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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If the Department for Transport accepts my representation as the solution, Dover will prosper!
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#505, any service enterprise's greatest asset is its human resources.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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"#505, any service enterprise's greatest asset is its human resources."
Therefore if the human resources are being outsourced, then that is asset-stripping ?
Roger
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
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no just a cheap skate way of cutting there expences.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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outsourcing is not asset stripping, you cannot own people or sell them on .
Guest 688- Registered: 16 Jul 2009
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Oh,I do beg to differ Howard.
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
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Really H????
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While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Howard, there are more assets than purely physical ones. A loyal, dedicated and highly effective workforce is, or rather was, one of DHB's greatest assets in the past. Where is it now?
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
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I suppose it all depends on whether you consider the employees to be an asset to the business or not, but without them you have no business.
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Such is the irony of emancipation, slaves were assets, employees a burden.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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flogged off at the best price possable.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#517: only through the eyes of an accountant, Tom. Accountants don't make the best businessmen, as those running DHB will shortly discover.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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...nor the best Politician Peter. All the best with your endeavours.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.