Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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or to the corner shop 50 yards down the road.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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we don't actually have a traffic problem in dover other than when we have problems at the port, we have parking problems in side streets due to the town not designed for cars when most of it was built.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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Which in itself creates a traffic problem howard
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Guest 868- Registered: 25 Jan 2013
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In that case knock down the old Victorian terraces that aren't suitable for modern day needs, and build more out of town developments with off-street parking...... sounds rather like post WW1 and post WW2 slum clearances !!
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Our Victorian terraces are not slums, Paul. And who is saying we should knock them down?
We live in Dover and others shouldn't actually be telling us to knock down our houses.
Dover's part in the core strategy should be essentially a decision reached by Dovorians.
I don't tell people in Deal where they should build and what they should rip down.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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"I still wonder wht you think everyone would go into Dover every day ??
You seem to be getting obsessive about the core strategy !!!!!
Paul, I'm referring to the 10,000 homes that would be built in and immediately around Dover.
I am convinced you do not have any notion at all of Dover's situation.
That's how it obstinately sounds like. You appear to have an obsession with "making Dover better", but don't seem to have a clue what you are really saying!
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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I haven't gone over all the posts to bizzy earning a living
But Paul says
If there aren't people to buy houses then there won't be a demand to build them ?
Many people are poring there money in to buy to let because there disillusioned with the uk pension industry,
You all probably have housing in your street that's rented out
So don't just think that the housing will be restricted by the market for homes for people,
Some will be investment, lots of schemes by the banks to con people into buying these sheds with one brick skin will be available .the greed of the sale will ensure this .
Social housing will be paid for possibly by the council rates
the billons spent every year by the taxpayer bear testament to this .
Pay says
How do you propose the problems of unemployment in the Dover are tackled and what would you expect DDC to do that is actually under their control?
Well Paul
They could ensure that the developers of the project link up with jobcenter pulse to give the local people a go at the jobs on the projects
Instead of letting the employment agencies, bus in the poor and desperate of eastern Europe for bigger profit
Paul you have a love of the Dover area ,and its history we can see this from your photographic work .
But I think you may some times have forgotten the people and there coulter that where responsible for these thing in the first place
PS. Paul That's not racist it the truth
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Paul, perhaps you were joking about knocking down Victorian houses in Dover, hopefully.
But for people who live here and love our old roads, it doesn't sound funny.
However, many old Dovorian streets were knocked down, not owing to war damage, but because they were deemed slum areas. There are people who resent this, believing we should have kept these old roads. Most of them were in the Western Docks area, others in the vicinity of Market Square.
And also the Grand Shaft barracks.
They gave us Burlington House in return.
My proposal is, we leave it for Dovorians and the people of Whitfield to decide what we would like to have.
Take Sholden, for example: just about all the residents in this Parish near Deal are against the planned 500 houses there.
Whitfield, near Dover, was also very much against the core strategy.
Whatever the core strategy is, it is not democratic. It's based on Labour policies of the last government.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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yeah ive got 500 bulgarians,500 romiaians and 200 poles to do all the building jobs for the ddc area.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Alexander
let me again pose this scenario for you,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
In Whitfield, even with the action group, and a number of public meetings where our very paulw was the most unpopular person that ever attended whitfield,,,,
at the local election that followed where 2 lib dems held the seats in whitfield before the national party sell out,
one of the lib dems was very active in whitfield, local people would have made sure the lib dems won by a hansome margin and the tories destroyed, what happened?????
the tories won by a big margin,
that tells you a story in itself
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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a very good point keith, the whitfield action group had our mp backing them,the yellows fighting development tooth and nail but the vote went to the blues.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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its a blue world up there,a tory stronghold.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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sorry brian
the lib dems held the seats and one of the lib dem cllrs was leader of his party and very active
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Guest 868- Registered: 25 Jan 2013
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Keith Sansum1 wrote:Alexander
let me again pose this scenario for you,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
In Whitfield, even with the action group, and a number of public meetings where our very paulw was the most unpopular person that ever attended whitfield,,,,
at the local election that followed where 2 lib dems held the seats in whitfield before the national party sell out,
one of the lib dems was very active in whitfield, local people would have made sure the lib dems won by a hansome margin and the tories destroyed, what happened?????
the tories won by a big margin,
that tells you a story in itself
Tells you that a vocal minority means nothing.....
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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point i was making paul was the lib dems who led the campaign with some locals should have won the seats easily
after 8 years in the seats
instead they got hammered
now that could be;
1; people lost interest
2; people lodt interest in the lib dems
3; it was only a minority actually opposed
4; other
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