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Alexander D wrote:So, Paul, then I assume you have not read the consultation process 2008 leading up to the core strategy.
Secondly, Paul, can you show me where I have written that the council should "create more employment for local people" ?
Please read my post properly, then perhaps consult the consultation process 2008 which DDC made: there is a lot in it about employment in Dover and District and how this employment, according to DDC, justifies the building of 14,000 new homes.
One point made in the 2008 process of the core strategy is that Pfizer would expand, and another point was that "4,000 new jobs" were imminent (with failure to mention from whom).
However, Pfizer are all but closing down now, and where these 4,000 new jobs are, I don't know, unless they refer to Morrisions, which set up since 2008. Yet in this case it is not 4,000 new jobs.
If there aren't people to buy houses then there won't be a demand to build them ?
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Yes, Paul, and now back to the employment for local people:
if the core strategy addressed the real problems of current unemployment in Dover District, perhaps more residents would find work and be able to afford a house! Right!
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Alexander D wrote:Yes, Paul, and now back to the employment for local people:
if the core strategy addressed the real problems of current unemployment in Dover District, perhaps more residents would find work and be able to afford a house! Right!
How do you propose the problems of unemployment in the Dover are tackled and what would you expect DDC to do that is actually under their control ?
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Firstly, my opinion, Paul, is that DDC should inquire whether it is legal to employ mainly people from only certain countries and deliberately exclude local people on a large scale, as some notable local factories do.
And if it results as illegal, for example contrary to anti-discrimination laws, then local Government should report it to the competent authorities.
Brian Dixon
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alex are you trying to be rasist,or just being contrery.

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I am sure if you have actual evidence you can go to the Department for Work and Pensions yourself....
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i don't see where ddc come in as to who private companies employ, totally outside their remit.
Brian Dixon
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totely agree howard.

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I also don't see how possibly a few hundred of mostly part time/seasonal employees on an estate outside of Dover would solve the problems of Dover's unemployment. Are there loads of 'English' people queuing up for these jobs and getting turned down ??
Brian Dixon
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of course not paul.
Brian Dixon
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as an after thought i never saw ques of eastern europeans out side tilmanstone salds either.not while i worked there.
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I don't think it is outside DDC's remit, Howard.
If there are private companies that have a policy of not employing local people, then this should be addressed by DDC.
And the core strategy should not overlook these facts either.
After all, many local residents are being categorically excluded from an opportunity to buy - or even rent - a house, due to what to me appears evident discrimination in favour of foreign nationals, while DDC are planning to build 14,000 new homes in Dover District.
DDC's assessment on local employment in the core strategy is completely out of date, and has proven to be wrong!
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Brian, your accusation of racism should apply to YOU. As in a recent post of yours on another thread makes evident.
I am not prone to this loony-left screaming "racist" at people, so you needn't bother trying it out on me

Guest 868- Registered: 25 Jan 2013
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Alexander D wrote:
After all, many local residents are being categorically excluded from an opportunity to buy - or even rent - a house, due to what to me appears evident discrimination in favour of foreign nationals
Blimey you have some great accusations without any evidence !!
Of course it is out of their remit, employment law is nothing to do with local authorities!!!
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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"without any evidence" is just your twisting of facts, Paul, not a iot more, not a iot less!
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What's an "iot" whent it is at home? A short idiot ?
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Where are the facts that estate agents are refusing to sell or rent houses to 'locals' in favour of 'foreigners' ????????
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2011 census says 93.19% of people in Dover were born in the UK with about 1.5% Eastern European, 3.03% pre 2001 EU, 0.76% Africa, 1.91% Middle East and Asia, 0.66% Americas, etc, etc
Dover is certainly being overtaken by these damn foreigners !
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Paul. your post 137 is a sheer fantasy of yours, as it is not something that comes from my posts.
The following article is of interest to the topic on this thread, both in reference to building houses and employment, which are both essential factors in any core strategy:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/4525093/Immigration-The-UKs-bordering-on-a-breakdown.html
Immigration: The UK's bordering on a breakdown,
is the title of the article in the link, and it would be advisable that the DDC core strategy be reviewed.
It is a sheer fantasy core strategy from Labour days, which is known not to have strong public approval.
It is a core strategy that flies in the face of reality.
Brian Dixon
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good god i give up.facts are facts alex.