howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#61
i know we are going over old ground but if we had not had the stand off over the location we would all have been able to get our boils lanced and farmer giles treated by now.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#62
Thank you Roger having work with water 50%of my working life post 58 and 59 are very wrong.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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#63
You can still build a house on a flood plane so long as the place is virtually built on stilts, surely there was no sensible reason why similar could not have been done with the hospital having only car parking at ground level.
But as Vic keeps on telling us it is all in the past, I guess we will eventually get the new glorified clinic.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#64
We would be talking about more money in doing that than what was in the pot.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#65
It may have been an opportunity for some joined up thinking with work to aleviate the flood risks for the area...
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#66
And the cost of that runs into millions more then the 21 million put by for the building.Sorry unless you have done this kind of work you would not know what has to be done and time it takes,I worked on the Chatham shipyard for about a year just doing that and D.world in France. and very big sites in London.So I think I do know what I am talking about,also doing ships births in the port of Dover.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#67
Thats why I said joined up thinking Vic with general flood aleviation in the town.
Trying to remember who on her suggested diverting the Dour along new channels through the town - was that you Vic or Alexander
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#68
Make it follow the one way system along Maison Dieu Rd, through the hole in the Hateway, then straight into the harbour. Simples.
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#69
There was also talk/discussions between KCC, DDC, the EA and Southern Water to contribute to the costs of the flood alleviation measures needed; I'm not sure if they are all done now, or just the preliminary work to decide what acually needs doing.
Without this Mid-Town flood-plain problem being resollved, there can be no Mid-Town development anyway and there's a pretty large area that is currently being wasted/lying idle.
Roger
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#70
All in the pass now move on.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#71
i thought the work had been done, i remember seeing signs up earlier in the year from southern water saying they were working to alleviate future flooding.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#72
If they have, then that great - could bring the hospital back to mid-town then (don't start that up again) ??
Roger
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
#73
there is a southeren water thingy near the exit/entrance to the health center car park.
Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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#74
Terry Sutton wrote in an article in the Dover Express earlier this year that the Victorians (I think if my memory is right) had a serious plan to widen the Dour so that cross channel ships of the day could sail right up to a new quay at the back of the town hall.
If that had gone ahead it would have sorted out both the flood plain problem and how to get cruise passengers and cross-channel passengers right into the town centre.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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#75
ray,that sounds radical,but saying they still could do that.might feel strange big ships docking at riverside to discharge passengers etc,but would play havoc with transport system with the town cloged with hgv's etc.then some bright spark would find a way to whip the passengers of to canterbury/ashford and london by the quickest way possable.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#76
Paul, post 67, it certainly wasn't me.
I may have mentioned using the Roman Painted House as a bath through the collection of rain-waters, which would effectively make it a modern version of the Cloaca Maxima.
But I forgot to send the plans on to DDC!
Guest 673- Registered: 16 Jun 2008
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#77
It was always a potty idea proposing to build a new hospital on a flood plain which is feet deep in water every few years.
Even if it had been built on stilts at great expense, the associated car parking would have had to have been built on stilts as well or the tarmac would have sealed the ground in and so back to square one.
Why go to all that trouble, and increase the periodic flooding of the surrounding properties, when you can just build the thing on dry land in the first place?
Subject already discussed at length with suitably watery photos here:
http://www.dover.uk.com/forums/dover-forum/rain-rain-rain-rain-rain?p=2Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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#78
# 77 spot on Ed.....we would have to wade through sewerage to gain access to the Hospital !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....several postings have
lacked adequate knowledge on the subject especially # 58....a flood plain is a flood plain....QED .......
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#79
Sorry Reg, I currently work in a building that is on a 'flood plane' with 2 rivers around it, and used to work at Pfizer which is rather wet area. If it is flood plane there then a lot of properties should be knocked down
If people are currently wading through sewage in Dover town centre, then how about someone starting a campaign to resolve the issue ???
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Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#80
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