Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Yes I know Keith and it was ever so. What can be done to change it?
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 682- Registered: 19 Jan 2009
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Keith - yes of course I can defend myself and what's this rubbish about borrowed time - the people know how I work - but as I have said many times before, I would sooner be working on something and getting some action rather than playing with my keyboard telling people what the problem was. This one needed snipping in the bud believe me.
Anyway, let me inform you...........
When I heard about this I walked around the town looking at each individual site in a constructive way and to be honest there are a few guard railings - and this is what we are talking about - not crash barriers which can be seen along Townwall Street that are not of much use - the one at the junction of High Street with Maison Dieu Place for example.
I also contacted Kent Highways - well Jacobs - and actually asked whether the person who compiled the document had been to Dover, as well as the Director for Highways at KCC and the Cabinet Member.
I sent in my submission and invited them to Dover - in fairness I thank John for copying me into his submission that simply said none should be removed in his opinion.
When I met with the Director for Highways he assured me that this issue woiuld come to the Dover Joint Transportation Board and it is scheduled to be on the April agenda. I have since also met with the Director again, the Managing Director for Environment, Highways and Waste and the new Cabinet member on a number of issues, I was advised of the date when this would come to the JTB.
They did come to Dover and again I walked every site with them, yet again, telling them my views as someone who has used Dover's roads all my life, showing them blind spots and where we needed to have motorists know where pedestrians were and not crossing at any point top mention just a couple. I also reminded them that when there are problems on the A2 or the A20 the traffic, usuallty heavy lorrries, use Dover town roads - Dover ain't Maidstone where they have already done this apparently.
I am now comfortable that they have listened but I'm not sure that we won't have to have a long debate at the JTB where each site will need to be taken individually.
Must get cracking now - full diary again today
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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NIGEL;
Nice to know your still around, and yep people will be reminded by other parties i'm sure of your actions, and from the people i speak to(and many not labou supporters) they say your on borrowed time, so take it from me, these were not my words,
As i'v stated on here i don't care who did what, or who first highlighted the issue, what's most important is something gets done.
this posturing for glory does no one any justice.
PETER
With regard to elected cllrs and unelected officers, this has always been the case, sadly not enough cllrs are willing to address this problem, but i do understand there are a number of reason's for this;
1; cllrs are not around much(majority) that's no injustice to them, it's a fact of life
they have other jobs/committments
2; A lot happy for the officers to run the council
3; cllrs don't recognise theres even a problem
How you get over it? nope not got an answer to that, i always recall the ex chief executive of DDC trying to exclude me from a particular outside body, when i took him on he admitted he didnt feel cllrs were able to o hold confidence.
every cllr signs to sa they will not give out information that they puton red paper or other stuff.
but the mere fact than an OFFICER is able to even raise such issues should be a worry to all cllrs.
but there you have it
don't think it will change, under any administration.
k
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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nigel
i went round very one too and compiled my own report, then "i played with my keyboard" to send it by e mail to k.c.c.
i know of at least two others that did the same.
incidentally i am not standing for election.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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Nigel there are some places I admit that the barriers could be done away with where there is not a public safety issue,but I would like some areas especially around Morrisons where I think New barriers should be put in.No chance of that happening is there?
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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outside the "golden lion" earlier, hope the driver/s ok, shows the importance of these barriers.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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there is some in a worst state at the junction of queen street/York street.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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done recently brian?
there was a bad accident there a while back that ted smith witnessed, luckily there were no serious injuries.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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only noticed it today howard,but maybe its been there longer.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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photos courtesy of brian.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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This is where people congregate for the bus in Market Square, could have been a tragedy with no railings.
