howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
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reasonable amout of money for what they got,could have been double or treble that if they went to the wrong place.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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At least the peasants in Deal still have a Co-op unlike upmarket Dover.
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Captain Haddock
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:At least the peasants in Deal still have a Co-op unlike upmarket Dover.
TWO Co-ops actually (one on Beauchamp Avenue, Mill Hill), and a very busy Sainsburys not far from the thriving M&S on our High Street of the Year. What's not to like?
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Guest 664- Registered: 23 Mar 2008
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About time the DFLs and their toxic (and, BTW, very anti-Dover) snobbery were debunked. They are in danger of disappearing into their own digestive tracts. I suspect I would feel more at ease and welcome in North Korea than I sometimes do in "North Dover".
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Guest 1266- Registered: 8 May 2014
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That's a bit unfair Andrew. Most people born and bred in Deal are just as anti-Dover
Jack of Hearts
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I believe, rather like arrivals from another land (which is how I suspect they feel) they are aping the natives' behaviourr in order to fit in.
Choice one heard recently (from a native) : "Deal is doomed because it's too near to Dover. Some Roma are already creeping (sic) over here".
Is that racist or is it racist?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I do think many people from Deal are rather jealous of what we have in Dover, despite them having a much better shopping precinct. Wherever one lives in Dover we are close by to spectacular views and great walks on the Western Heights. Standing on our sea front we look out at super ferries, stunning cruise liners, great containerships from exotic climes and people enjoying themselves in the water by the Sea Sports Centre. Until DHB turned nasty we had a wonderful pier to walk along or fish from.
Deal is featureless and when one stands on the sea front looking out one just sees the er erm sea and a little pier with a lousy cafe on the end.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I agree about the cafe,but not the rest I find both towns have their good and bad points but I do like going to Deal to shop and I like Dover and what is a round it just do not like Dover town centre like I use to in the 1950,s and 1960s.
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Jan Higgins
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The newer fancy residents of Deal prefer to forget or do not know it used to be a mining and fishing town with very ordinary basic shops and punch-ups on a Friday night.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Jan Higgins wrote:The newer fancy residents of Deal prefer to forget or do not know it used to be a mining and fishing town with very ordinary basic shops and punch-ups on a Friday night.
A bit like Dover used to be a thriving port and the town a commercial centre with large town houses filled with successful merchants and Folkestone Road lined with Hotels and Guest Houses!
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Captain Haddock wrote:A bit like Dover used to be a thriving port and the town a commercial centre with large town houses filled with successful merchants and Folkestone Road lined with Hotels and Guest Houses!
Together with punch-ups on a Friday night.
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Guest 1266- Registered: 8 May 2014
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:I do think many people from Deal are rather jealous of what we have in Dover, despite them having a much better shopping precinct. Wherever one lives in Dover we are close by to spectacular views and great walks on the Western Heights. Standing on our sea front we look out at super ferries, stunning cruise liners, great containerships from exotic climes and people enjoying themselves in the water by the Sea Sports Centre. Until DHB turned nasty we had a wonderful pier to walk along or fish from.
Deal is featureless and when one stands on the sea front looking out one just sees the er erm sea and a little pier with a lousy cafe on the end.
It just doesn't make sense. Rising population, rocketing house prices and almost weekly appearance in the latest 'best place to live' section in the national press.
When are people going to realise how feature rich Dover is and move there instead, so that I can finally find a parking space in Deal.
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Jack of Hearts
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I think Deal suffers from:
(a) being "occupied territory", and the chippy mentality of insurgent colonials
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(b) the problem of being overshadowed by a near neighbour of such enormous strategic, historic and iconic importance. Not to mention commercial, as 17% of UK trade goes through the port.
Deal is basically a glorified ex-mining and fishing village floating in a bubble of misbegotten snobbery and prejudice, with a few decent indepencdent shops and a load of poncey DFL-run and oriented ones that will be gone as soon as the London herd rush off the Next Big Thing.
Anyway, do excuse me - I am off to visit a chip shop in Lowestoft because The Times listed it as the fourth best in Britain.
Guest 1266- Registered: 8 May 2014
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There was a very good blog a few years ago but I can't find the link. It basically predicted Deal would reap the rewards of building a community whilst Dover would fall on its sword with its irrational belief of self importance.
Burlington House, the Big Screen, the White Cliffs Experience, De Bradelei Wharf and now DTIZ - all conceived because Dover is such an enormous strategic, historic and iconic town they simply could not fail...
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Jack of Hearts
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The above examples are nothing to do with the reasons I quote for Dover overshadowing Deal.
How is Dover not historically, strategically and iconically important? And at least it hs had the ambition to try things.
Community in Deal? Hah! I doubt the Deal DFL's ever set foot in Mill Hill, or even know where it is.
Sorry but I find the attitudes in Deal growing increasingly offensive and it needs taking down a peg or two.
I notice you don't comment on the racist quote in an earlier post, Jack.
What do you think of that? Or would you prefer to keep as the white flight town that it is and corral all the asylum seekers in Dover, onto which Dealites can then project their disowned racism?
Deal: always 20 years behind the times.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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Oh dear Andrew you are becoming more incoherent & are making ill informed comments relating to asylum seekers & their residence in Dover.
To be factual Dover is not an asylum dispersal area & has not been for more than a decade.
You may well have legitimate EU nationals in your community as do other towns. I believe Dover has one of the lowest of those populations in Kent.
Deal has taken 2 Syrian families in the past year & I understand they are integrating well.
Please stop giving Dover that unwarranted status as an asylum seekers residential centre it is untrue & you harm the community you are trying to promote.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I don't think asylum seekers have been mentioned Paul, as you say that issue finished over ten years ago.
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