Guest 693- Registered: 12 Nov 2009
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I believe that saying UKIP has had its day is premature. We'll have to see what voting reforms come out of this parliament; if some form of PR is the outcome, then all the minority parties will be dancing for joy as it will be the culmination of all their aspirations - the PR system is why UKIP has MEPs but no MPs and a few other minority British MEPs exist as well.
Whether you're for PR as it is seen to be more democratic, or whether you're against it because it reduces strong government, the fact is that we are moving inexorably towards reform of the voting system. Only if the first past the post system is retained in its current form is UKIP doomed; Lord Pearson said exactly that when he visited Dover in April. If PR is introduced, then I believe Sid and Barry have spoken too soon.
True friends stab you in the front.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Charlie sincerely is against selling Dover's ports, and British assets in general such as ports, but he also clearly stated - also in his letter in the East Kent mercury this week - that he cannot assure us that the Port of Dover will not be sold, as his party has made no promise that it will not be sold!
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Royal port?
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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That is what I said.
Sorry Vic, I didn't mean to be obtuse. It's just that I've not heard the term in reference to Dover before. Does the granting of a royal charter actually mean Dover is a royal port? If so, why haven't we maximised the tourism potenital of renaming ourselves Royal Dover or Dover Regis?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i think vic is referring to the charter.
Yeah, but does the issuing of a Royal Charter, make a port a Royal port? Anyone know?
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I have already said lads Dover is a Royal port.
Guest 673- Registered: 16 Jun 2008
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Dover has certainly had very extensive Royal connections through the ages, indeed Dover Harbour Board saw fit to commemorate the 400th anniversary of the Royal Charter by publishing a book entitled "Dover Harbour - Royal Gateway" by Derek Leach.
Unfortunately, giving any institution the appelation "Royal" appears to be at the somewhat random whim of the monarch of the day and the only harbour to be honoured in this way is our neighbour Ramsgate.
"In 1820, King George IV embarked, with the Royal Squadron, at Ramsgate on his way to Hanover. In appreciation of the hospitality he received, he decreed that Ramsgate Harbour should have the right to add 'Royal' to its name. This status of Royal Harbour is unique in mainland Britain."
http://www.cinqueports.org/ramsgate.htmGuest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Sorry but I still say Dover is a royal port.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Ok I have now found out,you can do the same by loging into is Dover a royal port.
After Queen Elizabeth (1)had thought it necessary to encourage this Town of Dover and the port,this was done by bestowing on it a mark of her Royal Favour a new charter of incorporation and had the port taken under her Royal Protection by doing that the port of Dover was made a royal port and all repairs and up keep of the port was done on her orders.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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I wonder what happened to the representations that were sent to the secratary of State for transport? I also sent one, after being informed by the Cinque Ports of the possibility to do so and given the address.
However, I still have the copies of my representaion and of the reply i received from London, so, no!, DHB won't be selling our Port, and if they try going ahead, I will confront them in a Court case with it, for tampering around with legal procedures!
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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With the great help from Mr Andy Cooper the letter to her Majesty the Queen about the sell of the Cinque port of Dover has been send.
And the HQ of the Dover forum also now have the letter which was send.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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could have saved a bit on the postage vic, maybe you should have rang her majesty and respectfully requested that she takes a butchers at the forum.
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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Or become an honoury member.
Tell them that I came, and no one answered.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Colin - how do you know Her Maj isnt a member already? After all there are a few members who dont come along to the 'get togethers' and who are not well known to most of us....
Its easy to hide your i.d.
Maybe this bloke Alexander is really Phil the Greek and well, who knows who Her Maj might be - any guesses anyone?
Guest 693- Registered: 12 Nov 2009
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I think the Forum Fuhrer has spoken about keeping local, Barry. Neither Windsor, London SW1, Balmoral, Sandringham, nor the kebab shop at Victoria Station count as local. Ergo, she and Phil ain't members. One assumes.
True friends stab you in the front.
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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You took Bern to lunch Barry on her winning your competition, did you get a knighthood? If not, that`s one off the list.
Tell them that I came, and no one answered.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Still awaiting that lunch date Colin.... besides I have met Bern anyway and Lizzy can give her a few decades!
Andy - but do you really think PaulB would say no to Buck House (that knighthood promise perhaps!), you never know PaulB could well be in on the secret
