Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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VIC;
You told me recently you were giving uppolitics, you know I feel health wise you
should, you have a life to lead and a lovely wife to look after.
You had many plans for visits over the years.
You appear now to have back tracked on all this.
On the question of local councils pleased don't be fooled that UKIP will not want you as a cllr to push there beliefs/policies, vic your pulling wool over peoples eyes.
On the question of political parties, lets be clear its unlikely the 3 main political parties are ever going to stand down, or not stand, and don't forget UKIP is aso
a political party, they are NOT Independents.
HOWARD
You are correct the cllrs are made up of people who dont work for whatever reason or run business's and can afford time to be there or some working cllrs thsat cant commit lots time because of work.
There is no real answer to that, you cant wxpect cllrs to hold down a full time job and then committ a lot of time at council meetings to.
As VIC says theres no real accountable(apart from ballot box each 4 years)
and there are some realy good cllrs on District and Town.
The question is how do you get those that are not performing, to perform?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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many questions to answer there keith, yes there are many good town and district councillors.
alas, to quote paul the forum fuhrer far too many chocolate teapots, we have two in our ward that represent the district.
do you really believe that victor would really quit politics?
it is not an election without his passion and outspoken views.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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howard
VIC did have many plans for his future.
As I say HOWARD cllrs are unaccountable apart from at the ballot box each 4 years, like you say some even survive ang get re elected even when they have done little the past 4 years.
I'm a great believer in;
1; candidates should live in the ward they represent to give a real good feel of the ward, but sadly all parties struggle to get enough candidates for all 45 seats across the District, and end up with cllrs that dont even know where the ward is.
2; finding a better way to make cllrs acoountable.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I am standing down from the chair on Friday.I do have plans for myself and Lesley over the coming years.i will still be in UKIP and voting for them,will I ever stand again?I would not think so the public of Dover in local and the Gen/Ellections over the years have turn me down and I feel that would not change if I went for it again. The lights are still on but dim.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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HOWARD/VIC
There you go HOWARD, Its my view that VIC does have passion for Dover and you dont have to be a Cllr to work for Dover.
VIC is clearly seeing the signs on the electorate, and his future, but also his own health.
At the end of the day your health comes first, sod the politics!!!!
and of course your family.
I suspect as you do howard that vic will stand again, but my thoughts are that for his own piece of mind, his family, his health, he shouldn't.
But hey, this realy is up to VIC
Good luck VIC whatever you decide
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Well as you see in the local papers today I stand down on Friday night but that is not the end of UKIP in Dover and you will see who the new chairman is over the weekend and he will do very well, alot better than myself we will have a very strong committee and new members are coming along so it is looking good at this time for UKIP in Dover but still room for more members yet, so please if you would like to join us email me.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I would like to say think you to the local papers for my send off.
And now it is all over I have handed over,and we have a new chairman of UKIP in Dover.You all know who it is but I will let that person tell you all when they wish to do so.Thank you. Vic M
Vic it was fun while you were on the stump, but quite frankly your retirement marks the death knell for UKIP in Dover. Thanks for the journey mate!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
i reckon the new leader will be either forum member john buckley or that roger chap that used to run the game restaurant.
Not me Howard! But if the person concerned accepts the position then it will be someone of high quality and substance. ( that must be worth a couple of pints! )
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 14,118
Well said John the person who now is the chairman will make a very good job of it and I am glad to be working along side of that person and the others to, it has the making of avery good team and will put UKIP on the map in Dover and Deal.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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come on vic and john, why the secret?
hang on, it's not barry williams is it?
have you made him see the light?
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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Barry`s name was mentioned Howard, but overall we didn`t think that he`d be up to the job!
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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That`s really cruel Keith, something that I`d never say!
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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As someone on TV used to say, all will be revealed " in the fullness of time "!!
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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For what its worth I reckon Andy Cooper has a decent chance of the job.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
