Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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Howard.
#83 "Hilter" a step too far don't you think, well disguised as usual.
#84 I would be banned for life if I was to respond to that arrogant remark.
"My New Year's Resolution, is to try and emulate Marek's level of chilled out, thoughtfulness and humour towards other forumites and not lose my decorum"
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GaryC wrote:Howard.
#83 "Hilter" a step too far don't you think, well disguised as usual.
#84 I would be banned for life if I was to respond to that arrogant remark.
Don't you mean #94 - arrogant, no. I admitted I make wrong choices sometimes and suggested that maybe you did too, that can hardly be described as arrogant.
As for the Hitler comment - in respect of the economy it was fully appropriate and indeed proportional. The Unions wrecked the economy in the 60's and 70's, driving whole industries into the ground and it was essential to make sure that cancer was cut out of the economy for good in the same way the cancer of Hitler had to be cut out of Europe for its good.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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barry
scargill's bitterest enemies would accuse him of causing job losses and the breakdown of mining communities, that chap hitler was responsible for the deaths of countless millions of mostly innocent people and laying the cities of europe to waste.
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Howard - that was not specific to Scargill but more generally in respect of the Trade Unions. The comparison is between the laying to waste of whole industries in respect of the Unions and the whole of Europe in respect of Hitler. Hitler had to be stopped because of the damage he was doing to Europe (let alone his mass murders) and the Unions had to be stopped because of the damage to the economy. I was very specific in referring to the economy in respect of the Unions.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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M. Thatcher resolved the dispute with the Unions by preparing the grand-master-plan:
close down factories and transfer production abroad to cheap-labour countries.
Major and T. Blair continued along these lines.
Enough of the dinosaurs, they became extinct, people have to rebuild from the mess left over by decades of Tory-Labour disaster policies.
There won't be another era of "Thatcherism" in Britain, it will never happen again!
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Where does Barry get his "get out of jail free card"? I want one.
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#104
As I said, well disguised.
"My New Year's Resolution, is to try and emulate Marek's level of chilled out, thoughtfulness and humour towards other forumites and not lose my decorum"
Brian Dixon
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estimated cost of the old dears funereal £3.6 million.enough money to keep a couple of fully staffed wards going for a year or two.
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BarryW wrote:
I know nothing about you GaryC or your situation. But perhaps you made the wrong choices for yourself and your family, we all do sometimes.
Barry, perhaps you should make an effort to understand where Gary is coming from. Gary's wife becoming disabled was not a 'choice' made by him.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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all covered in today's dover express too.
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Peter Garstin wrote: "BarryW" wrote:
I know nothing about you GaryC or your situation. But perhaps you made the wrong choices for yourself and your family, we all do sometimes.
Barry, perhaps you should make an effort to understand where Gary is coming from. Gary's wife becoming disabled was not a 'choice' made by him.
I know nothing about his personal circumstances in that respect and it is not pertinent to this discussion anyway Peter.
GaryC - disguise nothing, I said what I meant and I stand by every word.
Alexander - once again your fantasies take flight #105 - lets get back to the real world.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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barry
it is impossible for you not to know about the circumstances of gary and his wife, you have replied countless times to posts that contain that information.
try to be less callous and consider the feelings of others that are suffering.
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Howard - first of all that has no bearing on this specific discussion. It is utterly irrelevant to what we have been talking about.
Secondly, I have made a point of not wanting to know and not reading anything about his personal situation.
Thirdly I am sure he would not want sympathy from me anyway.
Jan Higgins
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# 112 very well said Howard.
# 113 what twaddle, I agree he would hate your sympathy but I am sure would appreciate your understanding but that would require an open mind which you Barry do not have.
Sorry fellow members for saying what I have wanted to say for ages.
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jan.
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Barry, are you disputing post 105?
I ask if you are actually aware of either what I wrote, or of the economic reality.
M. Thatcher did initiate the mass closing of British manufacture and the start of mass unemployment.
T. Blair was in the wrong party and should have been a Thatcherite by definition.
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Blair was no Thatcherite Alexander. Such a suggestion arises only from a lack of knowledge of what Thatcherism actually is. Mrs T did not close down industry, she did stop the subsidising of loss making nationalised, often strike ridden, firms and quite rightly so. Businesses must compete and survive in the markets for a healthy economy. Many of those then went on to prosper as privatised industries, the NFC for instance, a company I worked for just after it was privatised. Those that could not compete and survive or could not adapt, went to the wall or were taken over and that is what has to happen in a healthy economy.
Jan - I speak my mind and I will not pretend. You don't actually know me from Adam hence I do not really care about your opinion of me as it is worthless as a result. As, to be fair, would any opinion I might expressed of you for the same reason. There are many closed minds on this forum.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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insulting post there barry.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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I would expect nothing other than a response like that from Barry, he is always rude to those who dare to question him.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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indeed jan, the phrase saloon bar bully springs to mind.