The funeral today
- 17 April 2013 09:13225642i sincerely hope that it all goes quietly with no disruption. Today is for the children and grandchildren of the deceased, only they will suffer.
- 17 April 2013 09:17225643Theres too many morons around for it to pass peacefully.
I'm all for protest, making a scene at a funeral is as low as it gets - 17 April 2013 09:46225647Please God it all goes off without a hitch. Whatever we do or don't think about Baroness Thatcher, causing disruption at a funeral is indeed the lowest of the low. Speaking to a friend who lives not far from St Paul's earlier, he said that security preparations have been underway since last weekend and you can't move for closed roads and police at the moment. I pity anyone trying to get to work in that area.
- Brian Dixon
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17 April 2013 09:59225653it will be an intresting turn out,just wonder how many will peasefully protest and turn there backs to the cortedge,any all so many will try to disrupt the proseadings. - 17 April 2013 10:28225657I agree with Jeane, please God it goes off without any trouble. Only the lowest of the low would try and disrupt a funeral.---------------------------------------------------
Lincolnshire Born and Bred - 17 April 2013 10:46225661"Margaret Thatcher lived out her last frail months in supreme luxury and comfort, with a team of devoted paid carers, from what we hear...
... After a death, it is common to see requests for donations to charities or research related to a condition that had affected the deceased...."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/16/come-not-to-praise-margaret-thatcherIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing. - 17 April 2013 10:50225664Tom can't help himself, he's no better than the morons that will make a scene today.
- 17 April 2013 10:59225666Why I'm turning my back on Margaret Thatcher at her funeral
We would have stayed away from a quiet family funeral. But it's not just a casket we're turning our backs on, it's all she stood for
"You turn if you want to. That's what an accommodating Metropolitan police force told me when I asked permission to hold a protest at the funeral of Margaret Thatcher. I'd explained to them that my plan was to stand on the funeral route but turn my back as the coffin passed by. Not a problem, the officer replied, and suggested a nice spot at Ludgate Circus..."
[By Rebecca Lush Blum, who is an environmental and social justice campaigner, working for Lush Fresh Handmade Cosmetics]
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/apr/17/margaret-thatcher-funeral-turning-my-backIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing. - Brian Dixon
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17 April 2013 11:03225669the actull cost of getting there put me off going,not much change from 50 quid. - 17 April 2013 11:07225670Two from the 'hers' now for the Hymns...
" SIR - The choice of hymns for Baroness Thatcher's funeral cannot fail to raise a smile. Cecil Spring-Rice, the author of I vow to thee my country, was the son of a Liberal MP. Gustav Holst, who wrote the music to the poem, was a lifelong socialist. His great friend, the composer Ralph Vaughan Williams, was also a socialist despite his privileged background, and both men refused honours and knighthoods.
Vaughan Williams adapted a Sussex folk song he had collected from a farm worker in Horsham to words rewritten from John Bunyan by Rev Percy Dearmer - He who would valiant be. Dearmer, an energetic vicar in Primrose Hill, was passionate about socialism. He and Vaughan Williams were editors of the fine hymn book The English Hymnal which appeared in 1906. Both men were denounced from the pulpit of Canterbury Cathedral by the conservative archbishop of the day for, among other things, using folk tunes.
Little is known about William P Rowlands, a much respected Welsh church musician who composed the tune for Love divine, all loves excelling. As for Charles Wesley, who wrote the words - he was a social reformer way before his time.
Philip Spratley
Deeping St James, Lincolnshire "
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/letters/9998930/The-surprising-associations-of-Lady-Thatchers-funeral-hymns.htmlIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing. - 17 April 2013 12:25225681all went without a hitch, a moving service.
- Jan Higgins
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17 April 2013 12:46225689I did not watch it, the first time I have not watched a ceremonial TV programme through choice.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
------------------------------------------------------------------- - 17 April 2013 13:02225691"A Farewell
Good-bye, old year, good-bye!
Gentle you were to many as to me,
And so we, meditating, sigh,
Since what hath been will be,
That you must die.
Hark! In the crumbling grey church tower,
Tolls the recording bell
The deeply-sounding solemnising knell
For your last hour.
How quietly you die!
No canonisëd Saint
E'er put life by
With less of struggle or complaint.
You seem to feel nor grief nor pain,
No retrospection vain,
As if, departing, you would have us know
It is not hard to go,
Since pang is none, but only peace, in Death,
And Life it is that suffereth.
Closer and clearer comes the last slow knell,
And on my lip for you awaits
That final formula of Fate's,
The low, lamenting, lingering word, Farewell!
For you the curved-backed sexton need not stir
The mould, for there is nothing to inter,
No worn integument to doff,
No bodily corruption to put off;
Begotten of the earth and sun,
And ending spirit-wise as you begun,
You pass, a mere memento of the mind,
Leaving no lees behind.
Hark! What is that we hear?
A quick-jerked, jocund peal,
Making the fretted church tower reel,
Telling the wakeful of a young New Year,
Young, but of lusty birth,
To face the masked vicissitudes of earth.
Let us, then, look not back,
Though smooth and partial was the track
Of the receding Past,
But through the vista vast
Of unknown Future wend intrepid way,
Framed to contend and cope
With perils new by vanished yesterday,
Whose last bequests to Man are Love, and
Faith, and Hope.
Alfred Austin"
http://www.poemhunter.com/alfred-austin/Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing. - 17 April 2013 16:41225728Like Jan it was also the first time I have not watched or wanted to watch a ceremonial TV programme. Well after all the hype it is now over may she rest in peace and her family get on with their grief and their lives.
- 17 April 2013 16:50225729Ditto.........
- Jan Higgins
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17 April 2013 17:01225732Agreed Harry, I should add my objection was to the cost and hype, she should have had an ordinary funeral like any other politician.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
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17 April 2013 17:19225734Having just seen the Channel 5 News pictures the funeral looked very dignified unlike the truly disgusting uncalled for effigy burning that came from wherever it was in Yorkshire.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
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17 April 2013 17:28225737ex miners jan,very agrieved they are to.and i dont blame them either. - 17 April 2013 22:44225786I'm looking forward to Scargill's funeral. He was the one who really sold the miners down the river.I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
- 18 April 2013 08:20225825Dead right Peter.
His ex-wife was on the TV yesterday - nasty piece of work, just like her ex-husband.
Roger