Guest 697- Registered: 13 Apr 2010
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Paul is absolutely right - there is nothing else on this scale in the UK, so we should explore all avenues for unlocking its potential as a major heritage attraction. That in turn could unlock many other developments in Dover. More hotel accommodation is desperately required to support the port's ferry and cruise trades.
Clearly, English Heritage are key to any developments on the Western Heights and they need to take a more active role in securing the site for future generations.
There are many examples around the world of heritage attractions that have been developed without sacrificing their integrity or historic significance. People need to be more open to the possibilities.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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To be honest, Mike, I would love to see some military marches and bands playing on Western Heights.
Something that attracts people, also with enactments of military units as they used to be dressed.
Guest 761- Registered: 10 Jul 2012
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Isn't that what Paul with WHPS already does?
Guest 868- Registered: 25 Jan 2013
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Alexander D wrote:To be honest, Mike, I would love to see some military marches and bands playing on Western Heights.
Something that attracts people, also with enactments of military units as they used to be dressed.
Erm ?
Brian Dixon
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to save bricks and morter,why not put tented areas up on the hieghts and fill them with troops and imigrants from the drop redoubt to folkestone,problem solved.
Guest 868- Registered: 25 Jan 2013
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Plenty of room Brian
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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paul thats the way to go.
Guest 868- Registered: 25 Jan 2013
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Alexander D wrote:To be honest, Mike, I would love to see some military marches and bands playing on Western Heights.
Something that attracts people, also with enactments of military units as they used to be dressed.
Do you not come to the open weekend?
Guest 868- Registered: 25 Jan 2013
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Kevin Charles wrote:Paul is absolutely right - there is nothing else on this scale in the UK, so we should explore all avenues for unlocking its potential as a major heritage attraction. That in turn could unlock many other developments in Dover. More hotel accommodation is desperately required to support the port's ferry and cruise trades.
Clearly, English Heritage are key to any developments on the Western Heights and they need to take a more active role in securing the site for future generations.
There are many examples around the world of heritage attractions that have been developed without sacrificing their integrity or historic significance. People need to be more open to the possibilities.
I am quite impressed with some of those links I posted, great to see new life in these site having seen several of them decaying for many years with no real future
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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alex
that has to be the strangest comment on this thread and believe me it was up against some stiff competition.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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It's not strange, Howard.
I did see an enactment on WH once, and enjoyed it.
But I was referring to what I actually wrote in words: to see regiments marching up Western Heights and Army bands playing.
It probably has to do with me having lived in North Camp: the school would take us regularly to see large-scale military displays with many hundreds of soldiers taking part, and brass bands playing,
Thousands and thousands of people turned out to watch, and it lasted hours, and these displays went on for days.
That's what my post was referring to Howard, something on that scale up on Western Heights.
Guest 868- Registered: 25 Jan 2013
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You are always welcome to lend a helping hand if you think the VOLUNTEERS with LITTLE MONEY aren't doing a good enough job and you can do better
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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here,here paul.
Guest 697- Registered: 13 Apr 2010
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With defence cuts, you're unlikely to see regiments and military bands marching up Western Heights! Recent history speaks of exactly the opposite - Old Park Barracks (closed); Connaught Barracks (closed); Royal Marines School of Music (closed). Even the Royal Tournament in London - the annual showcase for the military - was axed many years ago.
The WHPS clearly do a great job keeping the heritage alive with limited resources. This could be the oppportunity to put the Western Heights on a more sustainable footing for the future......
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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yes kevin a certain poster dose live in a dream world.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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The new plans have now been validated:
Town & Pier Appn DOV/12/00440
1) Outline permission (with all matters reserved except access) for construction of:
a. Up to 521 residential units (Use Class C3)
b. Up to 9,335sqm 90 apartment retirement village (Use Class C2)
c. Up to 730sqm health facility (Use Class D2)
d. Conversion of thatched barn to pub/restaurant (Use Class A4/A3)
e. Conversion of stable block to retail shop (Use Class A1/A2)
f. Conversion of farmhouse to bed & breakfast (Use Class C1)
Together with associated landscaping and ancillary infrastructure and works at Great Farthingloe Farm, Dover
2) Outline permission (with all matters reserved except layout and access) for:
a. Construction of up to 31 residential units (Use Class C3)
b. Construction of up to 7,400sqm 130 bed hotel and 150 person conference centre (Use Class C1)
c. Reconstruction of the Victoria Halls to provide 9 residential units (Use Class C3)
d. Conversion of the Drop Redoubt to a Museum/Visitor Centre (Use Class D1)
Together with associated landscaping and ancillary infrastructure and works at land at Western Heights, Dover
3) Provision of pedestrian access network to facilitate enhanced recreations access together with associated landscaping and works on land at Great Farthingloe Farm and Western Heights, Dover
Site at Western Heights & Farthingloe, Dover.
Roger
Guest 868- Registered: 25 Jan 2013
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Before Alexander runs off in a panic, "Validated" means it is a valid and complete planning application and can be passed to a planning case officer, not that it has been approved
Guest 868- Registered: 25 Jan 2013
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Paul Wells wrote:You are always welcome to lend a helping hand if you think the VOLUNTEERS with LITTLE MONEY aren't doing a good enough job and you can do better
Seems my suggestion has hit deaf ears, just like offers to come to the "Meet WHPS" evening or just to come along to one of the workdays
Jan Higgins
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Showing my ignorance here, what does "Reconstruction of Victoria Halls" mean, does it mean knocking it down then using the original footprint to rebuild in the same style as the original building.
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