12 January 2010
18:2537320Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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12 January 2010
19:0837326It was a Cabinet decision, not just Nigel's - collective responsibility.
Nigel is the Cabinet member responsible for toilets, so it was his name.
Roger
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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12 January 2010
20:3437334Roger that is a cover up for Mr Collor he done it.it was his decision,this is just to try to put him back in with the voters and it will not work.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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12 January 2010
20:4437337i always assumed what roger said to be the case, it would need cabinet authority.
only one person can make the call to the officers to deal with the decision.
in this case it was our susan's ex.
Brian Dixon
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12 January 2010
20:5037339sounds like we are getting bogged down by paperwork.
roger, is that you protecting nigel or did the cabinet really decied to close these toilets down.a cover up springs to mind,in the blame game.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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12 January 2010
20:5737340All of this has been done completely the wrong way more so if talks were ongoing
Although OUR NIGEL is very unpopular at the mo
the Town council seem to be handling themselves very well
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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12 January 2010
21:0937342I don`t know how many post`s these thread`s hold, but don`t forget, if it does fill up,
you are all very welcome to, and there`s plenty of room to add your comment`s to my boring topic page.
Tell them that I came, and no one answered.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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12 January 2010
21:4737345your thread got too stressful for me colin.
what with the carbon paper and ricks stain on his step, it became too much.
keiths endless, needless, personal attacks on nigel make this less traumatic.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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12 January 2010
21:5537347I have just come back from the River Parish council meeting as a member of the public,and the D,D,C, have asked them to take over the Kearsney Abbey Toilets and it was a no from them.so is the last toilet at both the parks out there to close down now.It is a wait and see, but just think if they do that with the many 100s of the public at go out there all the year around and no toilet it could now happen just think of the mess out there around the trees etc.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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12 January 2010
21:5937351good point victor, we must not also forget the poor squirrels in those trees having to bale out all summer.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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12 January 2010
22:1437355Just think about it two of the best parks around,they come from all over kent to have aday in them in the summer weeks and there might not be even a looe there is not one in the tea rooms out at the Abbey.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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12 January 2010
22:2237357Vic I wished you had told me you were going to the meeting .I wanted to go but as none of the councillors live this end of the village i dare not risk the ice .Vic you are jumping the gun here mate .The Parish council as were all parish councils and Town councils asked if they would consider taking over toilets in their area .The River parish Council said NO .I emailed Paul and he knew nothing about it and I can assure you the Parish council will not take them over .It is a stragetic park and DDC will maintain responsibility .Lets not start mishief making .
Jaquie some times things cvome home to roast .I will say no more .
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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12 January 2010
22:2337358Roger it could not have been a cabinet decision as it was not on an agenda
Guest 670- Registered: 23 Apr 2008
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12 January 2010
22:3737361That is what I would have thought Sue, still perhaps Roger can tell us where it can be found. Over to you Roger.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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12 January 2010
22:5137363usually agendas are only available to people that would be at the meeting in most organisations.
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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12 January 2010
23:2137371Sue is right Roger,it has never been put on an Agenda at Cabinet,and when I called the officer who shut them he said it was all down to Nigel,makes you wonder if we are on the same Council when things are not discussed or even circulated.
This item has been put on the Scruity meeting for Wednesday perhaps we will have the answers,although we may not.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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12 January 2010
23:2537373Officers clear who made the decision
forumites clear who made the decision
when people go to the ballot box,,, they will be clear of there decision
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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13 January 2010
08:3637383Well, all I can say it that two (Senior) people have told me, quite specifically, it was a Cabinet decision - I'm a back-bench Councillor, so can only accept what I've been told.
I don't do cover-ups.
Roger
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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13 January 2010
09:3237385They wont listen, Roger, some people are determined to stitch up Nigel whatever the truth.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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13 January 2010
09:4637386I don't think its a case of 'stitching anyone up' but its an opportunity for more transparency and honesty from local govt elected officials.
Us plebs have the right to ask who's responsible for making the decisions.
It would appear that whomsoever decided to close the loo's whether it be an individual or a committee made a very popular decision. They obviously have their finger on the pulse.It's right up there with "I can't see any icebergs" and JFK's choice of an open top limo to tour Dallas.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
