howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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10 January 2010
22:2737150congratulations to david for making the 200th post on this thread, does anyone else remember paulb saying that he would pay for a cruise for all the family of the forumite that achieved that mark?
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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10 January 2010
22:3137152No Howard it was post 202
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
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10 January 2010
22:3137153Yes I do Howard. I printed it off but David also stated he would give it to the 203rd poster.

grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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10 January 2010
22:3237155Thanks Ian
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
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10 January 2010
22:3337156grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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10 January 2010
22:3337157I though it was 204 as well
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 670- Registered: 23 Apr 2008
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10 January 2010
22:4237159It is Nigel that should be thanked for his action in the first instance. I am sure he is delighted with the publicity he has received. Go for it Nigel, close the remaining loos as well and if you are still responsible for car parks, double the charge thus placing the final in Dover's coffin.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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10 January 2010
22:5637162maybe that was the choice?
raise parking charges or sound the death knell to some pissoirs?
either way some hackles will be raised.
incidentally dave, nigel will not be eligible for the cruise, though some posters would like to book him on the "balmoral".
Guest 693- Registered: 12 Nov 2009
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11 January 2010
06:0537168I'm still failing to understand the necessity to close the toilets; if the budget for 2009/2010 had been settled a year ago, that should have been final, surely? And, if the budget was completely out of touch with actuality - these things happen, after all - then why not implement a pay on entry system?
Those are the two burning questions that lead one to ask whether the overriding consideration was political; I'm sure that bluff and bluster will try to cloud the issue, but the focus remains the same nevertheless. That is why Cllr Collor hasn't explained himself, and why Cllr Watkins has (rather bravely, imo) deflected criticism onto his own broad shoulders.
I think you'll all find that post #209 is the prize winner. I refer you all to page three of The Sun of Monday last week when a topless Paul Boland got his kit off for a Dovorian charity with this quote: "Ah, Jeeziz begorrah, Oid loik to think this bog situation in moi adoptive home town will run and run, much like our good people troying to find a comfort stop. If it gets to 209 posts on de subject, Oi shall donate a fortnoights holiday in Barbados to that poster in an all-inclusive resort. Furdermore, Oi'll look after his dog for him as well." So there you have it, I've come up trumps again! Paul, see you in Thomas Cook at noon?
True friends stab you in the front.
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11 January 2010
08:4537171Nice one Andy - got the lingo too.
Roger
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11 January 2010
09:4137174
lol
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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11 January 2010
10:2837177Hope to get up to a meeting at Whitfield today Nigel should be there .I would love to put an Out of Order notice on the gents toilet .I could say nearest one is Kearsney Abbey .
11 January 2010
10:4337178Guest 656- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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11 January 2010
12:2437179After reading 11 pages on the subject of Toilets, well I never thought I'd see the day

I still don't understand why the hell it was necessary to close them so abruptly in the first place, no doubt we will have a packed house at the meeting on the 20th January when we can get to grips to hopefully opening the very basic necessity of public 'looloos' again for everyones benefit
Sue, I have a vision of a red faced Nigel trudging through the snow towards Kearsney Abbey

11 January 2010
13:5837183If any evidence was needed, this has demonstrated just how much local ameneties matter. That it was necessary to demonstrate it shows how out of touch so many of the local reps are, sadly.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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11 January 2010
14:1837185how many people will turn out for the meeting on the 20th?
the way i understand it is that it would mainly attract people shocked by the closures, the town council are hosting the meeting, will they have the power/money to re-open them?
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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11 January 2010
17:1637197Howard,they have both but it does not put things right it.The D.D.C. should not have closed them till they had done all the meetings with the D.T.C. first.They are the once in the wrong not the Town Council.I will be at the meeting then it is off to the Hos/for me this will be my last turnout for some time.But I feel I need to be there.

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11 January 2010
17:3437202I think this debate has highlighted interest in public services. It is probably a pre-cusor to a much bigger debate on the state of the economy. We can't divorce Dover from the rest of the country. Every District in the country is going thru. the same process. The Chancellor, the opposition parties have all said public services will take the hit . I pointed this out last Oct/ Nov when we first put the Financial issues on the table. As I stated in an posting earlier and Dave has highlighted it could be car parking increases [it won't be, we have frozen those charges], Sports centre charges,etc.etc. Local government has been hit earlier than some of the rest of the public sector and expects to be hit harder at the Budget and following an election.I think from what David H has posted and what I have posted earlier there is room to resolve these first issues. Take the politics away and common sense will prevail in my view.Watty
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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11 January 2010
17:4637207Where was the common sense when Cllr Collor closed them down in the first place,he done wrong to do that you know it and we know it,and it will cost you alot of votes. You say take the politics out of it,you will not say it but Mr Watkins it was politics that closed them, and hoping that that the reds on the D,T,C, would get the blame,but righty so that did not happen it was Mr collor out on his own that done it,he is to blame and if you are backing him then the blame is with you as well.
As it has been put the forum many times just put your hands up to it you do not even have to say sorry,just open them up again.
11 January 2010
18:2337209I prefer not to blame but to trace accountability. It is more effective in the long term and enables a transparency in the processes. There is always the possibility, as well, that it was simple ineptitude and not politics that closed the damned toilets. We won't know until we have more, and more direct, communication.