Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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The idea of the PP is a good one, if the people of Dover get their say, if they are allowed some input and if Dover reaps more benefit than it does now.
It's all about confidence.
I wonder how PP and this thread, would have changed, if Gwyn had remained as MP and had supported PP?
I think Charlie missed a big opportunity in not running his campaign on the back of his support for PP.
If he had, he would have gained more confidence in it.
"My New Year's Resolution, is to try and emulate Marek's level of chilled out, thoughtfulness and humour towards other forumites and not lose my decorum"
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Interesting point you made there but I suspect that the PP was not sufficiently advanced as a concept for either candidate to use it in the election campaign. Timings were not right and it would not have been good for Dover for this project to have become a political tool or football in an election campaign.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i seem to remember that neil first mooted the idea with gwyn who was interested then as stated above the election came along.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Just had my post and with it the leaflet. My cheque is written and form completed.....
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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is there a cut off date for buying a share, no mention of one on the leaflet?
we should have a guessing game on how many shares are sold,i think barry said that a 10% take up was favourite.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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the issue featured on meridian tonight a few minutes ago.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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No cut off date Howard.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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On the same Meridian report that Cllr Jones appeared on, I noted that the announcer's parting comment referred to DHB's shortly forthcoming 'community friendly' proposal for the port. Wait a minute - how many attempts are are they allowed? It's a bit like a student who keeps messing up an assignment-then repeatedly taking it back to their lecturer till they get it right.
DPPT have done it once- and done it right-why? ...because they've done their homework!...Oh and they really care!
Never give up...
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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As DHB runs the Port, they probably have the confidence of the Government and the local people, so perhaps the privatisation proposal might be withdrawn and the Port remains as hitherto.
In my spread-sheet projection, rising fuel prices seem to exclude an increase in freight traffic by road in favour of rail. I've recently promoted this idea again with the Department for Transport.
I could be getting a reply any time soon from London.
We got our leaflet through the door today , that will be another 3 tenners on the way to the PP
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I'm not sure your statement is true Alexander: "As DHB runs the Port, they probably have the confidence of the Government and the local people".
They may perhaps have some confidence of the Government, not so sure about local people. That referendum showed otherwise.
Roger
Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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Re your first paragraph Alexander-I believe that there is much evidence to the contrary.
I concur with you on your implication that a rail link should be properly re-established to the port. It should never have been removed in the first place.
Never give up...
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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There is massive investment in a rail-head in Calais - the end of the line so to speak for the Trans-Siberian Railway, which is having hundreds of millions of whatever currency, invested in it by China, Russia and the EU.
Calais know how to tap into European funds which is paying for this rail-head, we (DHB) need to do so quickly and that is another reason why a decision on the Port - asap, is so important.
Dover doesn't not want to get left behind.
Roger
Brian Dixon
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glad you cofirmed what i have been saying for moths now roger,seen some sence at last.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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The confidence I mention is only in reference to the running of the Port, not the idea of selling it.
The rail investments in Calais you mention, Roger, are proof that we too will one day consider increasing freight by rail.
As you, Richard and Brian rightly say, we need a rail link at Western Docks, but then this would change the DHB plan for a T2 built for freight by lorries. Subsequently their proposal for privatisation of the Port of Dover would become overhauled and defunct.
I am rather amazed that in the last two years, the People port Trust hasn't ever considered a rail link. But as it is part of my 2 year old representation, I am confident it is being considered by the Department for Transport.
Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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Alexander, the T2 proposals have a requirement to keep the Rail link available.
Watty
Guest 732- Registered: 8 Nov 2011
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I would love to hand over my £10 to help out the people's port, but don't have a cheque book is there any other way I can pay ?
Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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Hi all.
DPPT is inviting all members of the wider public who live within, work within or have businesses with registered offices within the Dover District Council area to buy a membership share as per the DPPT constitution. DPPT is an Industrial Provident Society (IPS) constituted for mass membership. It is about the DPPT ensuring that it will be accountable to a membership that are fully representative of a wide cross section of the community all of whom know that they have a say in the strategic development and direction of the port because they will own a share of it through the DPPT when our bid is successful. This share issue is not about how much money it raises, it is about demonstrating a commitment to a truly enduring stake belonging to the communities most affected by the port's operations and development in the port...Government Criteria number 1 ...... shall deliver a significant and enduring stake for the community in the future direction and development of the port...... DPPT aims to prove that support for community ownership extends well beyond the bounds of the area sampled in last year's Parish Poll and that the communities of Dover and Dover District are committed enough to ensuring that the port's future ownership being in community hands that they are prepared to put in good money in order to try and ensure that it happens.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Vince I suggest you bring your tenner down to Blakes and I will give you a receipt for it.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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Alex, Rail must be a key part of any development plans at any major port anywhere in Europe. Dover is no exception. I can assure you that the rail link has been discussed and DPPT has said, on a number of occasions, that the current DHB Masterplan will need a complete review once the future of the port has been settled. The DPPT team and I cannot conduct an effective review from where we sit at the moment, so detail of any revisions to the Port Masterplan that may be required in order to accommodate rail capacity will, I'm afraid, have to wait until we are in a position to conduct an effective review.
