Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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nope, still not showing in Chinese Characters. I'll try switching my keyboard to simplified characters to see if that works.....用中文写作
Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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nope, that doesn't work either. .
Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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oh well, I tried
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,888
Alexander D wrote:Yes, Jan. You are right.They are about 6 months old.
Unless the "People's Port" - of which you are a paid-up member - can prove that the DfT have changed their policy as specified DURING the Public Consultation (see statements from 6-9 months ago), they are walking in hot waters.
Well you certainly got that bit wrong, how much else have you assumed or misinterpreted from what is written.
Just because I support the bid that does not make me or many others fully paid up members.
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Ref #60, I would point out that you, Alex, as an individual member of the public who responded to the consultation, are not a 'body' or an 'organisation' within the terms of the sentence you quote. Other 'bodies', such as the Dover Society, DDC, KCC, DTC, and 'organisations' such as the unions, ferry companies and DPPT are still very much engaged in dialogue with DfT over the future of the port.
Also bear in mind that your letter was written by civil servants in the DfT, who have little knowledge of, and no authority to pronounce upon, contacts that their ministers may be having with such bodies and organisations, or indeed with other ministers or members of Parliament on the subject of Dover.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
the ferry companies would be very interested in the outcome, if dppt reigns supreme fees are frozen for 5 years.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Then I will simply have to leave you all in the dark.
The DfT, folks, does not give credence to DPPT's version. You're just wasting your time.
Vic has also told you this on numerous posts, and while I don't know which contacts he had, be it Buckingham Palace, UKIP of the DfT, as he says to have been in contact with all of these on the issue, he is 100% sure of what he says on the topic.
But independently from Vic, and following my own channels of information, I can assure you that you're wasting your time.
I'll leave you all clutching to sophisticated and computerised explanations and straws which DPPT offer
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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The writing was on the wall from day one,if it did not get sold off by the D,H,B, for cash in hand,it woud never be sold off.Why O why keep on about it,I am geting has bad as you for doing that but we must stop it all now please even doing my head in.Its over ,done dusted,So Mr Wiggins do what 100s of others have done and the MP move on.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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So this time Vic, you're telling DPPT and not me to move on.
This was the reason of my thread here, Vic, just trying to convince a few people of something that everyone in the DfT and in Government knows, and that Charlie knows too: DPPT's bid has been rejected!
Neil, I think you should listen to Vic: it's over!
Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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http://www.dover.uk.com/forums/dover-forum/latest-on-the-port?p=35 refer to post 688. Still applies to the real situation today.
The MP is still involved almost daily, so you are mistaken Mr Vic.
The immediate threat of a private equity sale is lifted with the last DHB proposal turned down, but will come again unless the job is completed. DPPT will see the job completed.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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That all rubbish,and the MP is not shouting in the papers any more,Like that NO 1 HIT by the big O ITS OVER NOW.
Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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I am pretty sure that I know with whom I am speaking and that my comprehension skills are sufficient to know what they are saying.
Believe as you will.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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If you say so sir ,but as I told you I only see what is black and white.
Guest 673- Registered: 16 Jun 2008
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Have just received the latest newsletter from Charlie Elphicke and he seems to be convinced that the job is done, quote "the Port of Dover will remain forever England."
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Neil Wiggins, please read Charlie's newsletter.
A few days ago or little more I brought this newsletter article from Charlie about the Port of Dover up on the Forum, a shame you missed it, it was on another thread.
What you are claiming, and what MP Charlie Elphicke claims, are two entirely different things.
He has already said in as many words that DHB cannot try again to privatise the Port.
Now hopefully the faithful few who hang on every word from you, I mean Jan, will not put their fingers in their ears and sing la la la la la
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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All he is trying to do is make it look good for himself.He did not save it,the public did ,if he had his way it would still be sold off to the Dp/p plan which was dead the day it started. What he saying is rubbish and when the time comes when we get ready for the Gen/Election,I will be telling him at all the meetings that will be held.I will be standing again against him.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
don't be so cynical ed this is the nan who has got us a state of the art hospital, stopped foreigners running off with the cliffs and stopped the house building in sholden and whitfield.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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He has done nothing for Dover,but talk he is trying to save face,like afew weeks ago he even turned on this own side by saying it is all the D.D.C doing why Dover is the way it is.He must go and in a small way I am going to help him on his way.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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In fact, Vic is right here, again.
Charlie's DPPT proposal was presented at 10 Downing Street with the offer ending at the end of - gob-smacks I can't remember if it was 2010 or 2011 - and the offer was there and then rejected by the Prime Minister.
End of 2010 (or was it 2011) came and went, Charlie's DPPT offer expired, and it was then rejected!
I posted at the time that Charlie had simply tried to jump the Public Consultation and get the Prime Minister to make a decision over a Public Consultation held by a Government Department, namely the Department for Transport.
The Prime Minister did not do it, and by Law he could not.
It was all posted on the Forum's front page at the time.
Sorry, Neil. Give up!
