Guest 3925- Registered: 28 Nov 2020
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I don't really care who provided the money (KCC, DDC or the Government) as it normally ends up from taxpayers, but Market Square is coming along nicely......not.
Please discuss.....
I like the three doors, one for the tunnel to the castle (although it's weatherproof unlike the cable car), one to the town bomb shelter and presumably the third for smugglers leading from fan bay?
I guess some of the money is reserved to spend on 24/7 security when it opens to prevent graffiti?
Rather have spent the money on something worthwhile....
Guest 3925- Registered: 28 Nov 2020
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Sorry, I still can't see how this is going to make Market Square look fit for the 21st century!
I'm sure if I could be bothered to look back at all the plans and so called public consultation, I'd find the costs and benefits, but so far, I can't see it!
Nice paving though

Arthur- Registered: 18 Nov 2020
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They should leave the fencing up so that all the Dover White Elephants can roam together

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Arthur wrote:They should leave the fencing up so that all the Dover White Elephants can roam together
Brilliant Arthur, I'd pay to see that!

Keith Sansum1
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Ross over to you as a supporter of the scheme
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Dover Pilot- Registered: 28 Jul 2018
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They somehow seem to have turned the awful proposed drawings into an even worse reality.
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Captain Haddock
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The clowns at DDC now have more rings than those at P T Barnum's.
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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I see that it's been dubbed 'The Dover Ring Piece' on social media.

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ray hutstone wrote:I see that it's been dubbed 'The Dover Ring Piece' on social media.
Good one, although you might need to explain to some on here

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Brian Dixon
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it's a mess
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I hope Brian that Ross doesn't see your post lol
I told him the same and he strongly disagreed
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Guest 3925- Registered: 28 Nov 2020
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I thought the "water feature" was working when I walked past this morning, then I realised it was an axle-grinder!

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Arthur- Registered: 18 Nov 2020
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I can see the tourists turning up in droves to visit Dover because of the revamped Market Square! What a waste of money- when will it end?
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Keith Sansum1
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What should also be considered is the business around the area who are also affected by the works which no one apart from the council and Ross appeared to have wanted
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Dover Pilot- Registered: 28 Jul 2018
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Watch out for the surrounding windows. I overheard several youths saying they are going to make excellent catapults.
Ross Miller
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Seriously when will you ever be satisfied?
This scheme cost DDC c£500k (the rest of the funding coming from the Coastal Communities Fund).
The street lighting in Market Square was reaching the end of its life & would likely have needed replacing in the next 2 years & would have cost not far off DDC's investment in this scheme.
So we have got an enhanced social space, with significantly more seating, replacement planting including 6 mature trees (scheduled for late Autumn planting), more pedestrian friendly pavements, and a performance space with proper electrics for £500k - seems like a bargain to me. Oh and many of the seats have backs on & armrests (to stop people sleeping on them).
I still dont really get the arches & mist but will reserve judgement until I see them working with the lights etc.
The only other concern I have was the decision by Kent Highways & DDC to not put anti graffiti coating on all the white concrete,because it apparently turned it a cream colour which the powers that be didn't like, lumbering the rate payers with the possibility of substantially higher future maintenance bills.
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Jan Higgins
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Sorry Ross to be honest I am not satisfied with the image portrayed above #73. This large amount of bland white concrete is not exactly beautiful, clever tasteful graffiti might even be an improvement.
Having said that I guess those ugly hoops might be welcome by children and the inevitable drunks on hot days in the summer but what about the colder months.
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Ross Miller
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Ah Jan beauty is in the eye of the beholder is it not.
I am not mad keen on the sparkly white concrete and much prefer the cream colour the anti graffiti coating turned it, which complemented the paving much better and doesnt blind you in bright sunlight
I suspect the hoops and mist etc is aimed at and will be appreciated by the younger denizens of our fair town rather than us oldies, we do at least get lots more places to sit
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Keith Sansum1
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Maybe when it fails
Like other projects they will pull it all down again lol
Still it's Dover
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