Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Quite simply, DPPT need to show an official declaration stating that their proposal has been accepted or rejected.
The 21 December 2012 is passed, the Decision Minister has made his decision, and the "People's Port" plainly refuse to answer a simple question: has their offer been accepted or rejected?
Just ONE answer,
Brian Dixon
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rhubard and custerd.
Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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http://www.dover.uk.com/forums/dover-forum/latest-on-the-port?p=35 refer to post 688.
No we do not Alexander.
The consultation on the DHB privatisation scheme has finished with the rejection of the DHB privatisation scheme. The process to ensure that we never have to go through the same issue all over again is far from complete - capiche?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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technically not so neil,although mr jenkins said that dhb would not put in another offer, mr hammond gave them carte blanche to do so on the 20th december.
Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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Howard, for as long as Dover is a Trust Port the DHB can always make a new application with a new proposal whenever they wish. That is the point I am making and which some forumites continuously fail to grasp.
Last December both technically and in reality, the then DHB proposal, having been consulted, was rejected.
For now the DHB has said that it has no intention of making a new transfer request, but that is no guarantee that Dovorians will not have to challenge yet another privatisation bid in a day, a week, a month, a year, 5 years or even a generation. Hence the process to ensure that Dovorians do not have to challenge another privatisation attempt is on going.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Mr Wiggins you are the only one still going on about it even the Dover MP has moved into the background of it,just wal;k away from it,you went for it but lost that does happen to most of us at times, but to keep on and on about it is costing you any support you have left.As I said to you last year good thing you did not bet your house on it because you would be homless now.They would not even take a bet in the bookmakes on it now.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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now this is where i have a problem. neil rightly points out that d.h.b could go for privatisation tomorrow morning or in a decade or more, where does this leave dover?
the issue has always been about money being set aside for regeneration either by the community port or the peoples port, as things stand neither is going to happen.
forgetting the bit about regeneration dosh, i cannot see potential investors clamouring to rain money all over dover when this uncertainty goes on.
Guest 868- Registered: 25 Jan 2013
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Where don't Alex's proposed road tolls come into this to regenerate Dover ?
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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section 6 parsgagh 6,3rd line down.and its in small print.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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The very bad way that the lorry drivers are treated by the KCC and the DDC we will see them going to other ports ,we need them all but they need to be better looked after.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Howard, "Neil rightly points out that D.H.B. could go for privatisation tomorrow morning or in a decade or more".
This problem that we all have, regards this statement, will be solved very soon.
The DfT will give an official explanation to me, whether DHB will be able to put forward another privatisation bid.
The request for this information is in their office (DfT), and it will be made known to the Press.
The whole farce will end once and for all.
We cannot take the word of DPPT on this matter, as it is their bargaining tool to attract membership.
Only an official statement from the competent Government Department will be of any use to us.
Meanwhile, I am presently going to point out to Neil DPPT's position with the DfT. T'will be before the clock strikes ten
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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been studying the dft web site alex, nothing on there about the port since christmas, will look forward to your assessment of the situation as i do to everyone elses.
Guest 868- Registered: 25 Jan 2013
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Alexander D wrote:
We cannot take the word of DPPT on this matter, as it is their bargaining tool to attract membership.
Only an official statement from the competent Government Department will be of any use to us.
:
Can we take the work of someone who thinks they have whole government confiding in them but don't want to tell anyone the big secret ?
Keith Sansum1
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In my posts I have tried to remain unbiased, have pointed out some of the problems with the peoples port, but on the other hand Alexanders view that the govt is to write just to him????? either Alex alexander is not understanding the situation, or decides not to.
If the Minister is soon to make a decision on the next step forward, this will go to all consultee's, the peoples port, alexander, big business, etc etc
What I find amusing, is on the one hand alexander says he needs no support and is just another consultee, and the peoples port has the ears of the minister.
yet on the other in his latest posts hes saying the minister is soon to write to just him?????
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i see that the amendment to the 1991 ports act has been withdrawn by charlie, was due a second reading on friday.
Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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What was the amendment that was withdrawn Howard? Charlie getting some flak in the Dover Express tomorrow
http://t.co/VRnc9H92aEAudere est facere.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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charlie seems to be getting it from all directions martin, robin wilkins was on his case earlier.
here's the link, will leave you to draw your own conclusions.
http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2012-13/portsact1991amendment.htmlGuest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Latest news on the Ports Act 1991 (Amendment) Bill 2012-13
"This Bill has been withdrawn and will not progress any further.
The Bill had its first reading on 25 June 2012 through. The second reading was expected on 1 March 2013 but was withdrawn.
If you require any further information about the Bill then please contact the sponsoring Member Charlie Elphicke."
So! What do we make of this?
Perhaps the experts on the Forum can explain away here?
They will give us a lengthy explanation, won't they?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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certainly a mystery alex, maybe charlie was pressurised to drop it?
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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still waiting the experts reply
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