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- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
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#101 Sorry but I didn't get that either. EU companies have both EU import and export hoops to jump through, plus Transit in certain circumstances.
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
- Posts: 1,299
Sorry I'm not clear, Button, I'll borrow the words of the Guardian if I may:
Ian Wright, the FDF chief executive, said that not only did the “repeated failure to implement full UK border controls … undermine trust and confidence among businesses but … it actually helps UK’s competitors”.
Guardian's words: "UK exporters have been saddled with red tape, extra checks and costs since Brexit with all border controls being implemented by the EU in January while EU exporters face near frictionless trade into the UK."
Button- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
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Yes, well, it depends what one means by 'into the UK'. For sure most UK controls are conspicuous by their absence, but the EU ones aren't and so trade into and out of the EU ain't (and never will be) frictionless - as no doubt EU importers, exporters and customs services could tell you.
I don't mind the UK's implementation of Brexit being criticised, since I want things to go swimmingly and they clearly aren't, but the Press writing or repeating biaised reports is just as bad as those who think that everything in the post-Brexit garden is perfect.
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Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,090
Waitrose Chester out of Pâté de Foie Gras.
Bugger.
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Button- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,057
Received my consultation pack for the reduced (in supply terms) IBF, now solely an HMRC affair and in my view still the wrong way of going about customs and Transit checks. Interesting little sentence under 'Traffic Modelling': "Modelling is being undertaken for multiple junctions in the vicinity of the IBF site."
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Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,927
Could be a vote loser for Mrs Elphicke
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,090
Keith Sansum1 wrote:Could be a vote loser for Mrs Elphicke
But only for a few hundred voters who live close to site one suspects?
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Guest 3925- Registered: 28 Nov 2020
- Posts: 541
I'll wait and see if I get an engagement pack, I did last time but perhaps they are reducing the "impact"?
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
- Posts: 2,158
Captain Haddock wrote:But only for a few hundred voters who live close to site one suspects?
I'm sure you're right, given that those not immediately affected are still in denial about most of the detrimental effects of Brexit. Bit like climate change, in a way. Let's mock Greta and maybe nod sympathetically when Attenborough speaks his truth but then just go on pretending everything's fine.
She might come unstuck a little bit more when it becomes better known that 'toe the party line at all costs' Natalie voted against making the discharge of sewage into our waterways and seas illegal. The EU Court of Justice had previously ruled it to be unlawful but, hey, we don't want those damned bureaucrats telling us what to think and say, do we?
Widespread protest in Kent. Maybe some of the effluent might stick where it rightly belongs on the hands of the politicians too spineless to stand against it.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,090
Atherstone Co-op and Aldi, shelves full.
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Pablo- Registered: 21 Mar 2018
- Posts: 614
#111, Same here in Llandrindod Wells. Aldi and Tesco well stocked. Also fuel stocks good, but with diesel at 146.9p I’m glad my car is electric.
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
- Posts: 2,158
Captain Haddock wrote:Atherstone Co-op and Aldi, shelves full.
The Daily Mail has also covered it if you're sceptical about Huff Post. The facts are real.
I know - I'm all right, Jack.
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/sewage-video-uk-harbour-hampshire_uk_6177bc4de4b03072d6fb4ac0Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,927
Oh well she can chance it
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Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
- Posts: 2,543
https://inlandborderfacilities.uk/?page_id=1231
How to Comment on the Proposals
If you would like to submit comments about this proposal, you can do so from 25th October until 23.59 on 8th November 2021 by completing the Online Feedback Form
Even if you commented on the previous proposals in January and February 2021, this is a new, smaller proposal, and as such we would be pleased to hear your comments.
Comments made previously will not be included in this consultation report. Guest 3925- Registered: 28 Nov 2020
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My engagement pack arrived and I've been online to provide my comments. Smaller it might be, but potentially in the region of at least 1800 HGV movements per 24 hours. Pollution, road disruption, no duelling of A2, light, ecodiversity, BOAT redirect, destruction of ancient road, residents nearby from all angles, drainage, all still relevant.
And those of you who watched the Council online discussion last year, many admitted it was in the wrong place.
I hope everyone provides comments, it will be too late to complain after it's built!
Button- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,057
#116: road disruption is right, I think. One of the snags with the site is that its approach road is short and cannot accommodate much of a queue before a) fouling the B&Q roundabout and b) tempting coastbound HGVs to drive through the White Cliffs estate.
So far as I can tell, outbound traffic can choose to use the site as an alternative to Motis, Stop 24, Ashford and Ebbsfleet (don't know about inbound traffic). It's all very well to reduce both the scope and capacity of the site, but it doesn't help if you don't also reduce the number of its customers - if anything, the reverse is true.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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Still Mrs Elphicke not concerned then ?
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
- Posts: 2,158
Regardless of how you see it locally, it's still a totally unnecessary. politically motivated, misguided and damaging waste of money.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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Maybe it will affect her seat then
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Guest 3925- Registered: 28 Nov 2020
- Posts: 541
Just to add to the other comments on here about shop selves, I've just come back from ALDI (Cherry Tree Ave, Dover) and the shelves were fully stocked!
Maybe we can get back to discussing the IBF and how it's going to wreck lives.....