Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
we will wait and see keith.
Gary39- Registered: 7 Jul 2017
- Posts: 403
I have been campaigning for moving lorries back from Aycliffe back since TAP was introduced but sadly I am getting no where. No one in a authority from the of the Agencies involved will meet me…
To put it bluntly they do care about a little estate called Aycliffe
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 5,953
Garry I did try to help getting in touch with your councillors,I even contacted Highways England .Have you called a public meeting?Invited local MP and Councillors.You have to get people involved.Have you sent questions in to the Town Council or DDC .It takes a lot of hard work .
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Gary39- Registered: 7 Jul 2017
- Posts: 403
There have been a couple of meetings but got the usual response from them are we are listening. So people think they are a waste of time for Aycliffe
Even got mentioned in parliament a couple times, written to DHB, local MP and asked her to come to With highways England
I written to the prime minister, Minister of Transport, the under secretary of transport… etc. “We are listening” I have even sent evidence
I have all my e-Mails, letters etc FROM OVER 6 years d. M
No one will take responsibility.
GARY
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,315
I do have sympathy for residents of Aycliffe it is quite wrong the way they have been treated over the years
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Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,210
Sorry to be a bore but as I and others argued at the road enquiry all those decades ago the M20 should never have taken that route into Dover ruining Aycliffe, going through an AONB and splitting the town from the seafront.
We are where we are. DO thank pressure from DHB who just wanted a direct route to Eastern Docks and the idiots in DDC who backed them.
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'If no one went no faster than what I do there'd be a sight less trouble in this world'
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 5,953
Yes Bob we are where we are .DDC should have stood up to DHB .i suppose one or two Councillors were not sure what it was called but the Dover Port Committee .Your Brain younger than mine.I will not refer to said Councillors .Its been suggested I speak at a meeting not sure which yet,
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,315
I do think that was Aycliffes loss
But could have been another areas loss had it gone a different route
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Gary39- Registered: 7 Jul 2017
- Posts: 403
Sadly Aycliffe and Dover lost is in the past.. I am interested in the present with moving the lorries back from Aycliffe. But sadly no one is listening in the right agencies. They are not even bother to come and meet me and face the music….
Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 2,830
Keith Sansum1 wrote:I do think that was Aycliffes loss
But could have been another areas loss had it gone a different route
(With the DfT's usual spelling of Aycliffe)
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,210
Button, I remember it well! Give people four alternatives where three of them are totally mad and involve expensive tunnels and 'obviously' they will choose the least worse!
'If no one went no faster than what I do there'd be a sight less trouble in this world'
Button- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 2,830
Going back to freight clearance (if that's what it is) at Guston, it occurs to me that, having successfully reduced the size/scale/supply of facilities, one now has to hope that customers' demand for them follows suit.
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Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
- Posts: 2,321
Button- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 2,830
So, about half a boatload then!
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
- Posts: 2,158
That is if they can find 96 drivers.
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Arthur- Registered: 18 Nov 2020
- Posts: 345
Very interesting that Mrs Elphicke is still trying to spin this as a win for her! Have made a mental note to ask HMRC exactly how many new jobs will be created- I suspect it’s nowhere near the number she’s suggesting.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,599
Arthur, I would guess at maybe a dozen used over three shifts on vehicle control, anyone from customs will be from internal department movement.
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 5,953
Jan you are very wise
Arthur- Registered: 18 Nov 2020
- Posts: 345
Next meeting with HMRC will ask for specific numbers. Construction jobs can’t be counted as they are not long term employment. HMRC also confirmed that they are expecting freight numbers on site reducing as drivers become more familiar with the paperwork which will be submitted online and not require physical checks on site.
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AndyPol- Registered: 28 Nov 2020
- Posts: 541
I find it hilarious that the move has gone from 1200 to 96!! That's such a dramatic change that suggests to me a massive error on the part of the planners and government departments. What isn't funny is the mental health strain on the residents, but the sad thing is that no one in government, local or national, cares about that.
