Keith Sansum1
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Roger;
The right wing of your party are showing over gay rights, that this is not the case.
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Senior local Conservatives are urging the prime minister to delay any parliamentary decision on gay marriage until after the next election.
More than 20 Conservative Association chairmen have signed a letter to be delivered to No 10 on Sunday.
It says they "fear that, if enacted, this bill will lead to significant damage to the Conservative Party in the run-up to the 2015 election".
The Commons votes next week on the government's plans for gay marriage.
180 Tory MP`s including 6 whips ( do they exist ? ) 4 Cabinet Ministers will defy `Flashman`
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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dave does not listen to the parties grass roots but only to his advisers so he will not back down.
Brian Dixon
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typical.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Like most party politicians, these people are more concerned about the good of the party than of the nation. A good example of how party politics can be so corrosive to the public good.
Gay marriage is a matter of personal conscience and ought not to be a party political issue.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Peter
I share part of your view, but the 180 MP's are showing just out of touch the conservative party still is
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Courtesy Independent.........
Tory waverers press-ganged to back Cameron on gay marriage vote
Backbenchers warned they will jeopardise careers by opposing Bill.
That should sort out the men from the.................
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Courtesy Daily Telegraph.....
Grassroots Tories 'betrayed' by David Cameron over same-sex marriage
Senior local Conservatives have accused Prime Minister David Cameron of "betraying" the grassroots of their party, as they
deliver a last-ditch attempt to delay the vote on same-sex marriage.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Courtesy Guardian........................
New Archbishop of Canterbury challenges David Cameron on gay marriage
The new Archbishop of Canterbury will issue a challenge to David Cameron by voicing opposition to gay marriage on the eve of
the first parliamentary vote on the controversial new law.........the list is growing.....is Cameron a Lemming ?
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Reg;
not sure where your going with this one,
The tories appear to have got themselves in a mess as this item was not in its manifesto and it appears the mouse is trying to buy back support from cleggy.
The new archbishop of Canterbury is already showing hes well out of date for the job and due to the many changes within the churchs he wont last long.
180 rebel MP's is a very number and the whips will have a hard job bringing them all into line.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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i know kieth,reg has got insomnia and cant sleep,
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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As this has to be decided by Parliament, I would have thought that members should be given a free vote.
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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agree it should be a vote based on the conscience of the individual, the main argument against that is the fact that there was no mention of this plan in the blue manifesto of 2010.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Nor the red or yellow ones Howard. It's a total red herring. Cameron is pushing this to look cool and watching him speaking in favour of it is like watching your dad dancing at a wedding.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Peter;
whilst your correct its not something the tories go with and it shows by the rebel of 180 MP's plus members leaving in droves
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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just a reminder to avoid the st radigunds area tomorrow due to heavy traffic and hordes of pedestrians thronging to the polls to cast their vote in the st radigunds town council by election.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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why the reticence keith, i heard that people were outside the polling stations with sleeping bags and thermos flasks earlier. even the chippy applied for a late night licence.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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I removed it Howard
I felt I may get arrested under the hand ringing laws
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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heard that spivs were outside the polling stations selling poll cards for a fiver each for those who had already voted and wanted to do so again.