Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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The British State has to introduce a Law that provides for all children attending British schools to learn that Jesus Christ is the Saviour. Not to do so would be racism, the reason being that Jesus came as the Saviour of all mankind, as the Light to all peoples and nations.
No child going to school in Britain should be denied the right to learn this, regardless of their ethnic origin.
In fact, this is one of the essential teachings of the Fair Lady, whose Light Tower Church stands above the Sea to illuminate.
As Her Church indicates the East-West road to Christ's Church, following the line of the sun, and stands above the sea within the Castle walls, it clearly indicates illumination to all the British Isles and to all peoples far and wide.
Christ came as Saviour to all mankind, to every people and population on Earth.
The British State cannot withhold the right of every child in Britain to learn about Christ.
There can be no exception.
As for Faith, the one and only true description of Faith is that it comes from Love.
It comes from nothing else!
God is Love!
Guest 1033- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
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Alexander, I don't have a label for myself regarding my absence of religious beliefs, but I don't doubt I will be given one.
Howard, they don't need to use explosives to force people to 'learn' religion. They have more subtle methods, not only to grab the kids at a nice young age, but to keep them under the control of the church by mortal fear of what will happen to them if they leave. There are many lapsed catholics in the UK who have nightmares regularly after the horror stories they have been told by the crows and penguins who pose as religious teachers.
Guest 904- Registered: 21 Mar 2013
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Goodness gracious, does anyone commenting on this thread actually have children attending a Faith School? Come to that, does anyone commenting on this thread actually have children?
Both my kids have attended St. Mary's C of E in Dover, one is still there. A rounded education is supplied in religion (as well as all other subjects), with all faiths being studied and guess what? No inquisitors, no compulsory weekend worship etc etc.
And neither has been arrested yet for not accepting unconditionally that "Jesus came as the Saviour of all mankind, as the Light to all peoples and nations".
Between Alexander and Barrie we lurch from the bizarre to the ridiculous. Once again...
Guest 756- Registered: 6 Jun 2012
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Paul, I share your concerns. I was raised as a Christian for my formative years, then later attended Baptist Chapel. I find religion a bit of a conundrum, every creed has its own interpretation of the Bible, therefore I question its validity. What I do believe is that Faith schools have their place and as long as you have a well rounded education and an code of moral conduct, you'll make sense of lifes mysteries!
Alexandar, can you tell me where I can read about the life of Jesus between the ages of 10 to 33, as there seems to be a big gap in the Bibles documentation of his life?
Guest 1033- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
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Are my comments any more ridiculous than 'backpack of explosives' comments ? and you might remember Howard that certain 'christian' factions have also run around this country with explosives, both catholics and protestants.
Paul: yes I have children
Yes they have attended a faith school
I never said that C of E used the 'fiery pit of hell' indoctrination technique.
Nothing wrong at all with a well-rounded education, as usual, my point was missed I was replying to the explosives and Heathrow comments.
Incidentally, I was a child once, and I also attended a faith school, perhaps that makes me qualified to comment.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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as i said earlier in the thread i don't have a problem with church of england schools, they provide a high standard of education without indoctrinating the children, we have an excellent one here in dover called st mary's.
the others i am not so sure of, the subject of catholic education was raised on here a year or two back and it transpired that many of our members had been through the system and not one had a good word to say about their school. overly strict discipline bordering on brutality was the norm for many. people i have spoken to over the years refer to feeling "catholic guilt" about many things they do, this also applies to very strict protestant schools.
Guest 1033- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
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I can only speak for cathlics, as I have never spoken to anyone from another 'strict' faith school, but I don't doubt in any way that similar things happen in similar circumstances that go by another name. Again, I wasn't knocking St. Mary's in any way, I just feel that to educate people to degree level in fairy tales is a total waste of resources.
Guest 904- Registered: 21 Mar 2013
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Barrie Nicoll wrote:I wasn't knocking St. Mary's in any way, I just feel that to educate people to degree level in fairy tales is a total waste of resources.
Would you care to expand on that Barrie? Are you saying that Religious Education at Degree level is a waste of resources, or that financing Faith Schools is a waste?
One I'll agree with, the other I don't. Just want to make sure of your positioning before I comment any further...
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Lesley, the Gospel explains that at the age of 12, Jesus traveled with his family to Jerusalem on an annual Feast celebration to the Temple, and became separated from his family, as they hat started the journey back to Galilee while Jesus had remained in the Temple to discuss with the high priests.
It's best to keep to the authorised Holy Scriptures, the Apocryphal books are misleading and probably inventions.
Brian Dixon
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thanks for clearing that up alex.
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So, from 12 to 33 then?
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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The answer to that, Lesley, came from the Fair Lady.
About 8 years ago I was given a clue, and then it occurred to me.
At the moment I don't feel like revealing the answer.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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so,you haven't found the answer then alex.
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There are no eye witness reports or accounts of Jesus life between the ages of 12 and approx. 30 when He began His Ministry.
Guest 1033- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
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I think that educating anyone to degree level in this 'subject' is a waste of resources.
The faith schools would probably be best discussed on an individual basis.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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I have, Brian.
Some of Lesley's questions are not fully answered, because they go straight to the point.
One day I might write a book, but no-one at present would print or promote it, because it does not uphold the current establishment in England.
It is all centred around the Light Tower Church at the Castle.
Besides that, there are secrets which I would not reveal unless there was certainty no-one could misappropriate them.
I'm afraid Keith S' posts about the queen being my "head and the head of my church" did not help.
I've even stopped praising the Church of England here now, because of Keith's 45 comments.
And to think that, at school, the C/E never mentioned the queen! So Keith did the C/E no favour there!
This link may help:
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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can you enlighten us alex.
Keith Sansum1
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Looks like we will go round in a circle again,
So let me explain again,,
The Church of England recognises the Queen as the head of the church
as does the govt of the day.
It appears only you have an issue with this alexander
as you do appreciating children need all the facts before they can make there mind up#
not brainwashed by just one religion
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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The fact is, Keith, no-one who believes in Christ as the Saviour would define teaching the Christian Faith as "brainwashing".
You do so all the time, which makes me believe you are not really a believer in Christ after all.
The other fact is, "the Church in England", or "English Church", which I believe in, does not exactly correspond to the "Church of England", although there are some aspects in common.
The English Church does not start with Henry VIII, but one thousand years earlier.
As for the rest of your statements, it's just talking in circles, and is boring, and has been hammered out here on the Forum many times. Such as "all the facts", as you state above.
Presumably you refer to your proposal of teaching hundreds of varying versions of Christianity and Islam and Judaism, and Hinduism and more, to children at school, calling this "all the facts".
I don't believe you are serious here, Keith, and it is better to ignore these repeated circles.
No-one would take that proposal seriously!
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Brian, you asked if I could enlighten you.
One of the clues I was given came by way of a name. It was announced to me in Serbian in a dream by The Lady.
Translated into English, it gave this:
Saint Mark son of Peter.
It took me several days to a few weeks (can't remember exactly) to work out the meaning.
Then it occurred, that Saint Mark is the successor (son) of Saint Peter.
Therefore not Linus, who the Catholic Church considers Peter's successor.
Following this doctrine, which is certified in the New Testament, the whole line of popes is a mistake from the start.
The truth is, St. Mark is the successor of Saint Peter, and he wrote the first version of the Gospel, and based on his version, Saint Matthew and Saint Luke constructed each their own version, hence the term "synoptic Gospels".
Matthew and Luke therefore in turn "succeeded" St. Mark, who succeeded St. Peter.
St. John, who, contrary to Mark, Matthew and Luke, was a direct disciple of Jesus, as was Peter, wrote the fourth version of the Gospel, and some Epistles, and the Book of Revelation, which completes the Holy Scriptures.
Enlightenment comes through the Holy Scriptures.
My point is, the British State should teach the Gospel of Christ to all children in British schools.
Just based on the Holy Scriptures, with no latter doctrines.
For an enlightened Christian, these alone are the facts concerning Faith.
Schools in Britain should not teach any church rituals from later days, which do not originate from the Scriptures, but only the Word.
Marlborough Lines school, an Army school in North Camp, and the C/E St. Mary's school in Dover, did this very well, they only taught us that Christ is our Saviour, with no mention of pope and queen or any rituals.
However, there are certain establishments in England that would not want to make known the Mark son of Peter doctrine, which comes from the Bible, because it would be the end of the Catholic Church, and that would also entail the recognition that the Windsors are not head of the English Church.
Anything that gets in the way of the monarchy Establishment, they will consider as an obstacle and oppose it.
