Keith Sansum1
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Lesley
others have said that's winding up
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Lesley, the concept of Just Warfare is a Christian one, dating from the Crusades.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 756- Registered: 6 Jun 2012
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Thanks Peter, now I have Monty Phython Crusaders stuck in my head! Did they ever find Brian?
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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BTW?
Women's role in war and peace...
"Not considered in the article by Kate Adie (Don't write first world war women out of history, 23 September) are those who travelled to The Hague in April 1915 to object to the war and to promote the radical idea that international disputes should be resolved by negotiation. As one organiser, Aletta Jacobs, said: "We feel that we can no longer endure in this 20th century of civilisation that governments should tolerate brute force as the only solution of international disputes."
Gary Kempston Illustration by Gary Kempston
Amid the carnage of surrounding warfare, 1,200 women from 12 countries met and elected five delegates to take their programme to end the war through mediation to European and US governments. The international team travelled back and forward across Europe and to the US during the summer of 1915, visiting 14 countries and meeting 24 influential leaders: prime ministers, foreign ministers, presidents, the king of Norway and the pope.
The women urged the political leaders to set up continuous mediation by neutral countries to end the war. Although each statesman declared himself sympathetic, not one would take the first step. However, US president Woodrow Wilson adopted many of their proposals in his "Fourteen Points" speech, which later laid the foundations for the League of Nations.
If Ms Adie includes the comments of the House of Commons about women politicians in 1917, she should also have quoted what the congresswoman Jeannette Rankin said: "I want to stand by my country, but I cannot vote for war."
To ignore the women who promote peace can still be a prejudice of war correspondents. However, the Women's International League for Peace and Freedom continues to promote the idea that political leaders have the responsibility to use their expertise and skills to resolve international disputes through negotiation and mediation, thereby creating political solutions rather than promoting military destruction.
Helen Kay
Edinburgh"
And four others...
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/27/women-role-war-and-peaceIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Lesley, you wrote:
"And from these bigoted views Alexandar, can I assume that you support religious wars?"
You may if you wish to, Lesley.
Perhaps that would be the causus belli to investigate the Fair Lady and the English Church on suspicion of promoting religious wars.
The headlines could read:
"The Fair Lady promoting religious wars through the Gospel".
Would this lead to the Gospel and the English Church being banned, Lesley?
My centre of Worship is the English Church at the Castle, the Light Tower Church; it belongs to the Fair Lady Britannia.
All I know is that She indicates the road to Christ's Church and uses the Holy Scriptures.
By the way, Lesley, I may also stand as a candidate councillor under the name: Alexander Britannia's son.
Brian Dixon
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no Lesley,he was crucified,then went into hiding.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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Guest 756- Registered: 6 Jun 2012
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Did the fair lady not preach humility and tolerance?
My friend, a serving Christian, is of the view that pulpits are for preaching and that everyone has a right to their beliefs. No one needs to attend a church to find their own god,we are all blessed. Like his attitude far better than being browbeaten into religion. He has a very encouraging congregation.
Jan Higgins
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Lesley, your friend is obviously a very sensible man and far more of a Christian than any zealot trying to force their religion onto us.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Some time ago on the very issue of religion I stated who I found to be one of the best vicars ever to promote the church of England in st martins church.
25 years ago rev Duckett forged links with the local community.
he was a great advert.
I always respected him, and he had the respect of the community.
He once told me, you don't have to go to church to be a Christian, he said there are many good Christians that don't attend church.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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the mosques are full of them though.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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???
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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preachers kieth.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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No, Lesley, the Fair Lady does not preach different religions.
Neither has She taught browbeating you into a Church.
Other religions don't interest me, I have no time for them.
Sorry, Lesley!
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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well you tried Lesley
as did neil
sad though cos alexander will turn many off religion
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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ok alex i give in, you have mentioned her many times but who is the fair lady?
hopefully it is nothing to do with the film based on pygmalion.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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is it the queen?
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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The Fair Lady is none other than Britannia, last seen on some of our obsolete coinage and sung about once a year at the Albert Hall.
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Well Howard.
The Church at the Castle is dedicated to the Virgin Mary.
The Fair Lady, who is not of human origin, would not, however, have chosen another Church.
And the road chosen by Her would never have led to any place other than Christ's Church, and perhaps also the priory just on the other side of the road dedicated to St.Mary and St. Martin of Tours.
While I fully appreciate that other people cannot know Her, my point has been that She shows the road to Christ's Church.
There is only one New Testament; there are no other Scriptures to the New Testament.
I tried to explain this to Lesley when she referred to the Apocryphal writings, but Lesley did not appreciate it, claiming I was being judgmental. So be it! Amen.
I've never suggested anyone worship the Fair Lady.
But have done my duty in writing that Her road leads to Christ's Church, and that the Sermon within the Church must be in such a way, that people listening LOVE the words that the speaker (priest, parson...) speaks of Jesus from the Holy Scriptures.
This was imparted unto me from a Lady In High.
That's all I know.
If someone asks about the apocryphal writings on a public forum in which I'm participating,, I will advise all readers to avoid them.
I will continue to state all my life that the Word of Christ our Saviour as in the Holy Scriptures be taught to all children in British schools.
I cannot be expected to advocate that different religions be taught at school, as my Faith is in Jesus Christ as made manifest in the Holy Scriptures.
The three Synoptic Evangelists succeeded Saint Peter and wrote the first three versions of the Gospel and the Book of Acts (St. Luke) following Peter's Ministry.
Saint John wrote the fourth Gospel and the Book of Revelations following his own Ministry.
That's all I know, Howard.
I've never invented a gospel or a doctrine.
And Our Lady's Church at the Castle is the only Church in the world with a Light Tower; it stands on the White Cliffs of Albion above the Sea in sign of universal recognition of our Lord Jesus, Son of God.
This is the Faith that shall prevail all over the world.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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so she is an alien then,has she got a passport and a visa to stay in the uk.