howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The theory of evolution is utter nonsense.
Furthermore, it has nothing to do with science.
The idea that cells developed from dividing in order to multiply into fully fledged masculine and feminine cells, that mated, which then developed eyes, ears and a mouth, is just total rubbush!
It is scientifically certain that no species with masculine and feminine gender developed from cells! The form of reproduction of cells and of masculine and feminine gender are totally different, and one cannot evolve from the other.
The theory of evolution - what rubbish - theorises that mono-cells evolved into animals and human beings. Total tosh!
Brian Dixon
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about the same theroy as a non existant god making the first human beings,but would you adam and eve it.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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No, Brian! Science is clear on this one: mono cells do not evolve into feminine and masculine gender.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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do you believe that the earth is 6000 years old alex?
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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That's a different theme to evolution, Howard.
The Bible says that, for God, a day can be a thousand years, and a thousand years a day.
So a day in Creation as described in the Book of Genesis can be a day, or a thousand years, or a thousand times a thousand years!
The most immediate concern is to convince people that the theory of evolution with regards to cells developing into species is scientifically deplorable. I say this from a scientific point of view.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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ffs re studys on a saterday night.
Jan Higgins
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I have read some tosh on this forum but I think couple of posts on this thread beat them all.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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one persons tosh is anothers eccentric genius.
i think.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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This is a silly thread. Everyone knows that the world started on 23 October 4004 BC at nine o'clock in the morning.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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The thread is not silly, and perhaps one should actually read the thread's article by opening the link before jumping to conclusions (Jan).
The author is a former Oxford evolutionary biologist, and he mentions evolution in his fulminations against God and people who believe in Him.
The theory of evolution with regards to the Earth's age is one subject, the theory of evolution regards species is something totally different.
I've already explained what the Bible says regards days: a day can be a very long time, not necessarily a day or a thousand years.
My explanations were centred on the so-called evolution of mono cells into species, and the evolution of one species into another.
Proper science, for example medical science, and biology, utterly refuse the evolution theory of cells developing into species, and of one species developing into another species, but may-be one should do some research to convince oneself of this fact, rather than calling this tosh.
The theory of evolution of cells and species is not science, but a theory, and one that is rejected by proper science.
There are plenty of facts about in medical journals that can prove this.
The problem with the author of the article (link in post 1), is that he is a declared atheist, but tries to subdue science to his atheist views, and declares every Religion that is in line with science as "rubbish".
It's his total lack of scientific knowledge that surprises me.
In fact many scientists believe in an evolution that is guided by God, which does not dispute the evolution of Earth, but will never uphold the species-evolution theory.
Jan, may-be you could explain to us how a cell developed into a person. Are there scientific explanations? Of-course not!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i read the article as this dawkins chap complaining that faith schools were brainwashing children into their way of thinking instead of opening their minds to different ideas.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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That was my opinion as well
I also believe they attempt to brainwash the children, luckily it does not always work and some are able to form their own opinion sadly some do not.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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alex,i hate to nit pick on this but there are a few misgivens on this.
1,god no evidance has come forth to prove he/she exsisted.
2,siance has proved that dinosaurs roamed the earth 150 million years plus ago,a well proven fact.
3,man roamed the earth 20 million before the supposed god was born.provan fact.
4,the bible is a story book made up of dubious facts,all unprovan.
so in concluesion,untill hard provan facts turn up i will remain a non believer.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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you can be such an infidel at times brian.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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howard,yes i know.
One of my favourite little sayings when it all gets a bit silly is "everything matters but nothing matters frightfully", handed down to me by a mate. Sum sit all up...........
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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bern,nil desperandom rules.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Brian, I wasn't disputing that the Earth may be millions of years old, as God's days are eternal, and one day can amount to any number of years.
However, your statement that man roamed the Earth 20 million years ago is not part of any scientific fact, any scientist will tel you this!
The oldest known civilizations historically date back to the fifth millenium BC. Historical evidence does not show any human existence older than 6,000 years.
Sometimes someone finds the relics of an extinct ape who lived hundreds of thousands of years ago and claims he was our common grandfather, other times someone picks up a fossile containing a dead mosquito and claims it was one of our ancestors, and some people claim that an original cell slowly evolved into apes, who then started walking and talking.
Actually, though, cells form a part of biologically living beings, and or not species unto themselves.
It would be helpful to get some scientific facts right, and historical ones to.
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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The Bible does not mention dinosaurs, nor does it mention fridge freezers or electric lighting so should we not believe in them?
The article does not mention evolution, other than as background into Dawkins and yet this thread has taken them as the only point. Dawkins was making a point about the limiting effects of a solely faith based education on the pupils subjected to it. There is nothing in the Torah, Bible or Quoran that deals with any of the many day to day factors of modern living. By ignoring science pupils are being excluded from the facts of modern life. By being schooled only in single faith doctrine they are at risk of growing up only with those faiths more prejudiced views on morality, sexuality, personal relationships etc. They are also at risk of being taught that their particular religious texts are more important than common law.
It is a wide subject and worthy of more wide ranging discussion than just a lot of bad jokes (and bad science - single cells are supremely adaptable).
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour