howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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And here's the Somme where the Brits alone lost 57,470 men on the first day and stone me, rather than leaving it alone, like you want us to do with the Goodwin 'graves', the Frogs have ploughed it over.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Guest 1922- Registered: 22 Nov 2016
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The extraction of minerals, on shore or at sea will cause permanent damage. When these materials are dredged from the sea bed they will be replaced, by nature, from elsewhere. Coastal erosion? These shoals and banks mitigate wave and tidal action. Dungeness is gradually moving eastward as it absorbs these forces. How many times have they had to add materials to the beaches in Shepway to replace materials lost to the sea. The vast amount of fossil fuel used to extract and transport these materials is damaging in its own rights. Port of Dover doe's what it wants with little regard for the town, the people or the local environment.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The public consultation finished 12 days ago, does anyone know when the MMO are likely to announce their decision?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Timmy is correct.
There is a finite amount of money for the project and money wasted on placating Deal luvvies, will not be there for what is apparently called the 'built environment' i.e. seats, gardens, toilets etc. which were planned to make the whole area a pleasant place for Dovorians and others for recreation rather than merely a walk along a dockside.
It's a great shame that the usual DFL suspects, after their hard day's work toiling in the creative industries, have nothing better to do than bugger around those trying to future proof England's busiest Ro-Ro port.
If you open your windows and listen very carefully the sound you hear is the rest of the industrialised world laughing at us.
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
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yeah the rumberling of hgv's,spewing toxic fumes.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Brian Dixon wrote:yeah the rumberling of hgv's,spewing toxic fumes.
..... bringing us all yet more 'stuff' to buy.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,879
Brian Dixon wrote:yeah the rumberling of hgv's,spewing toxic fumes.
You forgot to mention the parking side streets with refrigerator units running at night, bottles of urine and bags of excrement dumped beside the road, together with the other rubbish tossed from the lorry cabs.
The port traffic is needed and great so long as you do not live anywhere near it, thank goodness I do not.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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I do and its getting worse every week,with hgv's backed up to the roundhill tunnels.
Guest 1831- Registered: 1 Sep 2016
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It has just been confirmed that a documentary about the campaign and the dredging licence application, produced by Yvette Austin of BBC South East, will be screened on BBC South East's Inside Out programme on Monday 27th March at 7.30pm
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#109 You may find that "Timmy" is not correct. In fact the Dover Harbour Board, and that includes
"Timmy" with his £320.000.00 annual salary, have been caught out.
This campaign consists of more than "Deal Luvvies".
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Guest 1831- Registered: 1 Sep 2016
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Earlier this month, we met the MMO's Head of Licensing and a Senior Case Officer at DEFRA HQ in London. They confirmed that this dredging licence application has been coded RED, which means it is contentious and will have to be determined at the highest level.
Dover Harbour Board have not produced the correct specifications. They most certainly did not expect to be challenged and questioned.
For such a huge and contentious project, which has been discussed and projected for many years.
It is very surprising the Dover Harbour Board do not contingency plans for another source of sand and aggregate.
Meanwhile, we are faced with a mess, that may well develop into a huge mess.
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An update for your information: Thank you.
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BBC South East's Inside Out documentary on the campaign to be broadcast on Monday 27th March, I've just had a message from Yvette Austin the journalist, saying it will now be shown on Friday 31st March at 7.30pm.
Monday's programme is being replaced by a Special Panorama feature on this week's Westminster attack.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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christine.a wrote:
For such a huge and contentious project, which has been discussed and projected for many years.
It is very surprising the Dover Harbour Board do not contingency plans for another source of sand and aggregate.
Meanwhile, we are faced with a mess, that may well develop into a huge mess.
The short answer is that they are used to getting their own way so never thought they would need a plan b.
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Guest 1831- Registered: 1 Sep 2016
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*ITV Meridian, Monday 27th March at 6.30pm***
Apparently there will be a short news clip about the campaign -
DHB deigned to speak to the press and we have replied. Could be interesting viewing!
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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On the TV today we had Mr Wiggins saying we must take the sand from the Goodwins or it could cost the plans that the D,H,B. HAVE FOR the western end of the port to stop which could mean the lost of some 150 jobs.
But what we must not forget this is the person who up till about two years go was trying to stop any plans the D,H.B for the port. But then he got a paid job working for the D.H.B ,and what do we hear from him now.He is saying he is all for the plans and we need to stop saying and talking about NOT taking the sand from the Goodwins. I for one do not trust what he is saying.
But I have said it before with others saying to, there is no need to take sand away from there,there are many places to take sand from around the UK. If not then buy some from overseas like the rocks they paid for.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Recycled Glass as in highway construction is pound for pound cost less then natural aggregates, and there is stocks of IT round the UK.
