Guest 732- Registered: 8 Nov 2011
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It does make me wonder if the tide can cause that much damage to the railway , what has it done to the Admiralty Pier. Has it ever had a underwater Survey.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Mr Capon at times divers do go down and have a look at the pier from the sea bed. years ago a mate of mine was one of them that done it.
Guest 732- Registered: 8 Nov 2011
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Do you have any idea when this was last done ?
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Sorry I do not but all you have to do to find out is ask the D.H.B. they will tell you.
Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
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I believe it was done a couple of years ago when reinforcement work was carried out under cruise terminal 2.
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Guest 1266- Registered: 8 May 2014
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A couple of years ago when Shakespeare Beach had a natural pebble defence on it
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The Harbour Board have a fight on their hands over this one.
http://www.kentwildlifetrust.org.uk/node/9971howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Guest 1831- Registered: 1 Sep 2016
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Indeed the Dover Harbour Board are, hopefully, not getting their own way on this matter.
Big day tomorrow! We are welcoming Shaun Nicholson, Head of Licensing and Matthew Kinmond, Senior Case Manager from the Marine Management Organisation (MMO).
They are travelling down from Newcastle for the day (thanks to HS1 for making this possible) in response to our petition to hear our concerns at first hand. We have set up campaign headquarters; with display boards of shipwrecks, seals, coastal erosion, lifeboats, missing Battle of Britain pilots. All to bring the Goodwins to life and impress upon them the importance of leaving them alone.
Over 10.400 signatures and more, have been provided against this draconian attitude of Dover Harbour Board. Such a shame, such a challenge was not made to Save the Prince of Wales Pier. A tragic loss of such a Community Hub, for a Concrete Sheet. The lovely Marina, of Granville Docks, is under dire threat too.
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Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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FWIW here's the presentation on Goodwin Sands Marine Licence Application shown at open meeting in August
http://www.doverport.co.uk/administrator/tinymce/source/DWDR%20Updates/Open%20Meeting%20-%20Goodwin%20Sands%20Marine%20Licence%20Application%20Presentation.pdf
And here's the Goodwin Sands Marine Licence Open Meeting Question and Answer Report
http://www.doverport.co.uk/administrator/tinymce/source/DWDR%20Updates/Open%20Meeting%20-%20Goodwin%20Sands%20Marine%20Licence%20Application%20Questions%20and%20Answers.pdf
I know that listening to experts seems to be out of fashion of recent (indeed I chose not to the other month - hence my vote for Brexit) but I really feel that the slightly barmy objections, to hold up a £130m Dover port expansion, for a major local employer with an annual turnover of £58.5 million a year, has dragged on far too long and that the people with real jobs i.e. engineers should get on with the project.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
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Is it a £130m Dover Port expansion? Major employer who actually employs around 300 people, directly, mainly office staff. Most employment sourced out, to low paying contractors. Annual turnover of 58.5 million a year. Which as you can see for yourself, has surely benefited this area, and the Town of Dover. NOT.
Smashed a historical Pier, great beauty of walks and views. Community hub, which actually bought pleasure. Sea space allocated, to Rowers, swimmers, no fishing rights etc. For Cruise Ships they are losing the business of, hand over fist, because of the inability to stop their greedy prices, and never able to run a business directly. Where is the Cargo? a banana boat once a week! Marinas filled in and destroyed, beaches taken with no access at all. A bland and boring outlook.
Cambridge Terrace and the like rotting away.
Eastern Docks chronically underused in spite of massive building it up and flattening it down.
Ling demolition is not a local firm, who is currently involved, that puts paid to local firms being involved and local employment.
Always interesting that any challenge to the might of the Dover Harbour Board is described as "slightly barmy objections".
The doffing of the caps to the Dover Harbour Board and its perceived benefits to Dover, should be examined, but ofcourse it will not be.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Christine there were well over 300 written objections to the demolition of the Prince of Wales pier plus this thread here, hardly giving in easily to DHB.
https://www.dover.uk.com/forums/dover-forum/prince-of-wwales-pierGuest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I hope they do not take the sand from the goodwin sands at a meeting I went to some weeks go now I did put my own views over to the D.H.B. They will lose a lot of their support they had, if they go a head with it' there are other places they can get the sand,yes they might have to pay for it but keeping local support will be worth it.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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"keeping local support will be worth it."
The trouble is DHB do not care whether they have local support or not they simply think of their own needs and desires and blow the consequences to the town or surrounding areas, be that inland or out to sea.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Thank God we didn't 'consult the public' during the industrial revolution!
We'd have had zero canals, railways, factories and most of the keyboard-warrior Luddites on here would be scraping an existence in a peasant economy, though the prats would no doubt be celebrating the fact that it wasn't 'harming the planet' and business would not be 'making a profit for fat-cat shareholders'.
Idiots.
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Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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I do so love a polite constructive comment rather than a rude one.
Signed an idiot keyboard-warrior Luddite.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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“Humankind cannot bear very much reality.”
― T.S. Eliot, Four Quartets
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
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Quotes are so much easier than expressing one's own true thoughts:-
"An inflated consciousness is always egocentric and conscious of nothing but its own existence. It is incapable of learning from the past, incapable of understanding contemporary events, and incapable of drawing right conclusions about the future. It is hypnotized by itself and therefore cannot be argued with. It inevitably dooms itself to calamities that must strike it dead."
:Carl Jung.
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