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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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They are saying that it has been done before and that an "environmental impact assessment" would be made, but they do tend to get their own way eventually. I notice that Westmount has been totally demolished and that some of the rubble is gone, maybe that went down to the Western Dock?
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I think the CWGC might have something to say about dredging the Goodwins.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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OK I give in who or what are CWGC?
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Thanks Ray but if the sands have been dredged before this must set a precedent?
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That was before the internet, people are much more aware now of what is going on in the world.
Jan Higgins
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Quite apart from the significance of Peter's post how would the dredging affect the tides and as a result the coastline?
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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As you know I do support the new build of the port, but I do not agree that the sand from the goodwins sands should be used for it.There are many places they can get sand from ,and they are just thinking of the costs to get it to them and with the Goodwins sand being near the port then the cost would be much lower then some other places.But we must think of our wild life.
Guest 697- Registered: 13 Apr 2010
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The Goodwins have been dredged on many occasions over the years for aggregates for projects at both Dover and Ramsgate, including the hoverport and the infill of the former Camber at the Eastern Docks.
Guest 1266- Registered: 8 May 2014
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As Peter pointed out - they were dredged at a time when these sort of things could be kept quiet and dare I say there wasn't the high profile people from the media with homes in the area.
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Even before the days of social media I'm not sure you could "hide" a suction dredger off the Goodwin Sands and sailing into Dover or Ramsgate harbours to deposit its load! Information relating to the current proposal is in the public domain.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Prior to social media the dredger would have started work well before the gossip would have even had its first whisper.
Going off track a bit I know but if social media had been around Brook House might still be standing.
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Guest 1266- Registered: 8 May 2014
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Kevin, to be honest I wouldn't know what a sunction dredger looked like. You seem very keen to point out there is a precedent for this. Can I ask if DDC have a vested interest?
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Jack, one of the recent news reports gave an illustration of a suction dredger. Sorry I can not remember which channel but the suction end reminded me of the flat attachment that comes with many vacuum cleaners.
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More to the point here's the scoping report for DHB on the project.
https://www.doverport.co.uk/administrator/tinymce/source/PDF/The%20Goodwin%20Sands%20Scoping%20Report.pdf
Compared to 2,600,000 metric tonnes removed by Eurotunnel and considering bulk of the sands what's the problem??
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Guest 1266- Registered: 8 May 2014
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Probably not worth fixing the railway at Dover in that case. It will only wash away once that current gets a clear run.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Mr Heart sir , you are thinking along the right track.
