Dover Pilot- Registered: 28 Jul 2018
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Neil.Wiggins wrote:#25 Dover Pilot, I'm really not hard to find and frequently see members of this forum around Dover Town where I spend a significant amount of my time.
Think you need to start earning that salary and get in touch with the Dover community more. A large proportion of Dovorians put their trust in your lectures to the local press that we would not get quality restaurant's and retail if the Goodwin Sands dredging licence was not approved. And yet here we are with a woeful planning application.
Visiting our town that we live in and chatting to few people you know just doesn't cut it for someone paid to represent a whole community.
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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Dover Pilot wrote:
Visiting our town that we live in and chatting to few people you know just doesn't cut it for someone paid to represent a whole community.
What would you have Neil do accost complete strangers every time he enters the town? Neil has spoken to me in the past as a complete stranger as I did not tell him who I was, plus unless he has moved he lives very near Dover so knows Dover probably better than I do.
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Yes always speaks to me Jan .Very approachable chap .
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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I wonder if we feel we get the full benefit out of DHB?
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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That old chestnut Keith.It give employment to many .In turn those employees spend their money in our district.
Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
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I note that Whitstable now has an application in for a Portacabin restaurant.
https://www.kentonline.co.uk/whitstable/news/new-harbourside-fish-restaurant-will-be-built-from-shipping-246224/
It will be interesting to see if this goes ahead as the council has only recently turned down another restaurant application on the grounds that there is 'an existing over-saturation of restaurants in the town centre' but as we all know the Oyster Company runs the town and the local Freemasons won't accept Turkish members?
The comments section with the article below makes for some interesting reading.
https://www.kentonline.co.uk/whitstable/news/council-skewers-bid-for-turkish-restaurant-245154/"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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What rubbish comes on this forum now

Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,257
Whitstable harbour getting a bit full these days, I wonder how long before it's no longer a working harbour?
https://harbourmarketwhitstable.co.uk/Arte et Marte
PatrickS
- Location: Marine Parade, Dover
- Registered: 19 Sep 2015
- Posts: 448
The groundwork development on the Marina Curve looks near to completion with some of the former Prince of Wales artefacts being repositioned in what is an attractive design bordering the new marina on one side and the fenced off area of the freight terminal on the other.
This former Prince Of Wales 'furniture' including lighting, Pier Completion Stone & entrance gates now repositioned on the Curve
The old line of the Pier appears to have been preserved by definition with stone sets and original twin lamp posts and the pier gates. Trees and raised planting areas complete the new design
old mooring bollards have also been included
bench seats have been placed along the walkway facing the new marina
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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Thank you for the pictures
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PatrickS
- Location: Marine Parade, Dover
- Registered: 19 Sep 2015
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You’re welcome. Nice day yesterday for a walk round.
I should have added that the area is not yet open and still fenced off but hopefully for not too much longer.
The only area now behind hoarding is the Clock Tower itself.
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All looking good

Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
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Lets see all the feedback
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Guest 4218- Registered: 17 Apr 2021
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I read with interest that they want to build a shipping container restaurant in Whitstable on the South Quay, the difference between this one off shipping container development in Whitstable and what is being proposed in Dover is the size and scale.
Yes, a one off shipping container restaurant in Dover on the Marina Curve could actually be quite fun, but a 90 room container motel is another story. Far too large and far too intrusive! It would be much better to have a number of different buildings of architectural merit that become a destination just on their architectural merit alone. As far as I remember when the Harbour Board deprived the people of Dover of the Prince of Wales Pier as an amenity, we were promised an exciting development of retail and restaurants. I can't see anywhere the mention of a hotel on the Marina Curve, let alone a 90-room one made out of shipping containers. Just hope when DDC's planning committee re-looks at this planning application they also will see what a folly granting of planning permission for such a development would be.
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Do good and throw it in the sea...
Guest 3706- Registered: 21 Jul 2020
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The DHB are doing a fantastic job of investing in the sea front, say what you like but it's all looking excellent and if this standard is anything to go by then what comes in the form of the containers will also be high standard. Have to give credit where it's due.
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Keith Sansum1
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Who preferred the old pier
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Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
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I still think that there should be a bridge/link between the pier and the marina curve.
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PatrickS
- Location: Marine Parade, Dover
- Registered: 19 Sep 2015
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Today saw the Marina Curve / Clocktower Square open to the public for the first time. And a fine sunny, warm day it was to boot. Gone is the temporary metal fencing with only the clocktower itself still boarded up. Plenty of visitors already. Even a coffee vendor on site.
plenty of seating all along the curve as well as beside the raised flower beds
One of the features is the different types and colour of surfaces used in the development
Overlooking the new marina
Entrance to the new marina and the additional piling to help reduce wave action
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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Credit where it’s due very impressive .
PatrickS
- Location: Marine Parade, Dover
- Registered: 19 Sep 2015
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Indeed Sue.
The light grey rolled chipping area beyond the clock tower square that extends all the way to the Berth Holders Car park at the top end is the area that was/is designated for retail development and that dreadful second hand container idea.
Just hope they don’t spoil it.
It’s a lovely open area to walk along with great views.
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