Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
I think it is a hoax
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
- Posts: 2,158
The document is still available if you access it through the planning portal and select the documents tab on the application summary.
It could still be a hoax. I don't know, but I do suspect, that the DDC portal might upload public comments without necessarily varifying the senders's credentials when sent by email. It seems rather odd that Mr Wiggins comments should be so brief and terse. It's also odd that he should be seen to criticise the development publicly. Wasn't he appointed as the people's representative on the DHB board? A salaried sop to the people's port movement?
The comments from P.Sharrat are a comprehensive summary of why Dover is being short changed once again.
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
Yes Mr Sherrat very good .I cannot imagine Neil Wiggins would make comments as he is on the board of DHB .
Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,057
Almost as remarkable is the comment from Mr Soppitt that "some means of disguising the visible elevations of the proposed buildings could be included which would reflect (say) the character of the buildings which occupied the site during the 2nd quarter of C19th".
DTC seems more terse: "Object".
(Not my real name.)
Dover Pilot- Registered: 28 Jul 2018
- Posts: 346
ray hutstone wrote:
Wasn't he appointed as the people's representative on the DHB board? A salaried sop to the people's port movement?
Must be nice to be paid thousands to representative the people of Dover on the DHB board. Anyone know if he is still alive? Probably difficult to find out as he doesn't live here.
Surely DDC have been 'editing' the replies. Can't imagine Dover Town Council would just reply with 'object'
PatrickS
- Location: Marine Parade, Dover
- Registered: 19 Sep 2015
- Posts: 448
Application for used recycled containers to be used for Motel, Utility, Restaurant/Bar etc on Marine Curve up before DDC Planning Committee this evening.
Do they have the bottle to refuse this completely ill conceived design as currently presented?
At #22 Ray has rightly highlighted the comment on this Application made by Pat Sherratt that Dover is being short changed once again.
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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PatrickS wrote:Application for used recycled containers to be used for Motel, Utility, Restaurant/Bar etc on Marine Curve up before DDC Planning Committee this evening.
Do they have the bottle to refuse this completely ill conceived design as currently presented?
At #22 Ray has rightly highlighted the comment on this Application made by Pat Sherratt that Dover is being short changed once again.
The officers recommendation is for approval regardless of strong public opposition. I might be cynical but I can't image for one moment that councillors will override that decision. With our council that sort of thing only happens when the political pressure is going the other way - like Farthingloe and Western Heights for example.
PatrickS- Location: Marine Parade, Dover
- Registered: 19 Sep 2015
- Posts: 448
Cynic? .... never!
Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,101
Worth remembering what we were promised:-
"DWDR plans also include a new marina in the outer harbour and a transformed public-realm waterfront to attract a host of shops, bars, cafes and restaurants with Dover's unique backdrop of the harbour, cliffs and castle"
For what it's worth I STILL think the long term plan is to cover the site with an 'ocean village' much like they have done at Portishead (picture below) and around many marinas in the UK (Brighton, Sovereign Harbour etc).
Does anyone really think they have splashed out £200 million (?) to build a couple more berths for banana boats?
Yes, I have been shown the architects drawings in confidence at DDC.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,879
I suspect DHB will do exactly as they like just the same as they have always done regardless of what the people of Dover feel is completely wrong.
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
what has been promised and what we will acctuly get are two different things.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
The Planning Committee voted. For deferral .Common Sense .With a bit of luck COVID restrictions lifted we may get a public meeting .
PatrickS- Location: Marine Parade, Dover
- Registered: 19 Sep 2015
- Posts: 448
The Planning Committee after hearing submissions have deferred both Applications.
To summarise:
Councillors were keen on the overall concept of leisure and retail on the Curve, but expressed concerns over the shipping containers use in the Motel, size of the accommodation (rooms) and the lack of overall public consultation for the whole project.
Needs a rethink.
Got there before me Sue.
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
- Posts: 2,158
Good news. I take back everything I said!
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,101
ray hutstone wrote:Good news. I take back everything I said!
Extraordinary. Councillors defer making an unpopular decision a few weeks before election!
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Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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#22 that terse comment on the DDC portal is not from me, I did not post it. Thanks for alerting me to someone sending in comments to the DDC falsely using my name.
I've had a say in the port's boardroom with regards to this planning application, which doesn't emanate from the DHB, and made local views on the application quite clear within that forum, as did my fellow community director Samantha.
Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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#25 Dover Pilot, I'm really not hard to find and frequently see members of this forum around Dover Town where I spend a significant amount of my time.
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Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,257
We would have to presume that DHB have given approval for the plans to be submitted? In which case they may just as well be from DHB themselves?
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Neil.Wiggins wrote:#22 that terse comment on the DDC portal is not from me, I did not post it. Thanks for alerting me to someone sending in comments to the DDC falsely using my name.
I've had a say in the port's boardroom with regards to this planning application, which doesn't emanate from the DHB, and made local views on the application quite clear within that forum, as did my fellow community director Samantha.
Perhaps DDC should note that pretty much anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of such things can easily 'spoof' an email address.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,879
Neil.Wiggins wrote:
I've had a say in the port's boardroom with regards to this planning application, which doesn't emanate from the DHB, and made local views on the application quite clear within that forum, as did my fellow community director Samantha.
That is good news to hear but I doubt the board will take much (if any) notice.
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