howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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Call me cynical but you are probably right Howard .Usually consultation periods take place over over a holiday period, I have seen petitions and objections but rarely do they help.I do recall a sensitive planning objection many years ago over 100 people turned up for the site meeting .I agreed with the objections and on the night after much debate we won the day ,unlike the Big Screen.
Karlos- Location: Dover
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http://www.kentonline.co.uk/dover/news/stack-proposals-on-show-48737/
Public exhibition on Operation Stack comes to Dover
A public exhibition, held by Highways England (HE), will be at Dover Town Hall from 2pm to 8pm today (Thursday).
Details
https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/management-of-freight-vehicles-through-kent Guest 977- Registered: 27 Jun 2013
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Bringing this to the top as the exhibition is on but you wouldn't know walking past the Town Hall, as there's just a small printed sign at the top of the stairs. Maybe they don't want too many visitors, most of those there were councillors or officers.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I think most people realise what a public consultation really amounts to, mostly high coached people prepared to field any questions from the public knowing full well that a decision has already been reached. Stanford will probably play host, already sliced in half by the M20.
Guest 977- Registered: 27 Jun 2013
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There's currently a 70/30 split between A20/A2 for lorry traffic approaching the docks.
This proposal makes no provision for the A2 traffic, and unless it's free the split could well reverse, lorry drivers and their bosses don't think like the Highways England people wish they would.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Up for discussion at County Hall today with the suggestion that it is available for year round use not just for stack.
http://www.kentonline.co.uk/ashford/news/op-stack-lorry-park-should-49071/Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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tap stack has been on since last evening,still on going today at 1340.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Here we are, the problem not caused by anyone in Kent, businesses and people in Kent suffer, our police are taken off of other duties to cover this yet the Home Secretary insists that people in Kent pay for it.
http://www.kentonline.co.uk/ashford/news/government-refuses-to-cover-cost-69945/howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Guest 1266- Registered: 8 May 2014
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Very interesting. There are rumours the long term plan for HS1 is to run it only as far as Westenhanger Parkway and Manston Parkway then link the two with improved mainline shuttles.
Jack of Hearts
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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According to Charlie a House of Commons committee has decided that the proposed lorry park has been decided on hastily, a bit late now I would have thought as it is done and dusted as far as I am aware.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
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At last something is being done about Operation Stack!
(Younger readers might note that Operation Stack has existed since 1988 - i.e. SIX years before the Channel Tunnel opened!)
N.B. Don't hold your breath ..............
'If no one went no faster than what I do there'd be a sight less trouble in this world'
Ian Handley- Location: Norfolk UK
- Registered: 30 Oct 2013
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Indeed, I have a letter from Jonathon Sloggett the then MD of DHB thanking me and my team for our assistance in 'holding the freight' on the M20. At the time (1988) I was working in the DHB Import Freight Section - It wasn't even called 'Operation Stack' in those days!
Our job meant that we were well acquainted with many of the international drivers; I have a lasting memory of myself and two colleagues sheltering from the rain for several hours in the cab of a Swiss Artic - sipping a rather nice Polish Vodka!
Happy Days!
Ian Handley
Former Operations Controller DHB Terminal Control (1978-1995)
Dover born (1946) & bred, Moved from area in 1999 - family still living in Dover
John Buckley- Registered: 6 Oct 2013
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Not sure what all the fuss is about really. The "remain" side have made it perfectly clear that should "Brexit" win on the 23rd then our good friends across the channel will wish to shoot themselves in the foot by no longer trading with us. Should that actually happen then as 90% of the lorries on the motorway appear to be European then the roads will be empty presumably so no need for a gigantic lorry park?
The people of Ashford and surrounding areas can breathe a sigh of relief and the government can save umpteen millions by building something that would become a white elephant!
Unless the MP's for Folkestone and Ashford have got it wrong of course?
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thebill- Location: Dover
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Is anybody watching Inside Out on BBC new..They say that we could be looking at 5 hour delays from Maidstone to Dover if they change the boarder checks
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
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Arte et Marte
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Reginald Barrington wrote:
Bloody brilliant. 'Operation Stack' is a traffic management problem which should be solved through strategic planning and logistics and we are going to ask the great unwashed 'what they would like'. And you wonder why we've been 'seriously considering' a third runway at Heathrow since 2001?
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/jun/25/transport.politicalnews'If no one went no faster than what I do there'd be a sight less trouble in this world'
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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yeah, a20,m20 and the m25 as a permanent lorry park.
Button- Location: Dover
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This is what happens when government agencies lose court cases - they concentrate all their efforts on never being taken to court again.
(Not my real name.)